February 2010

36 phone interviews in 3 days

February 28, 2010

A reader writes:

I applied for an IT position at the university here and a week or so after the posting ended received a request for a phone interview, which I happily accepted. I was told to expect a 15-20 minute interview scheduled on the half hour. The interviewers called on schedule and quickly ran through their questions and gave me chance to ask my questions.

During the couple minutes of conversation, it came out that they were in the process of doing 36 phone interviews over the course of 3 days! Can you think of any circumstances where this would be reasonable number of phone interviews to conduct? I can’t imagine that the interviewers will remember anything about any of the candidates after that kind of insane interview schedule!

There was a questionnaire included in the application process that detailed applicants’ experience and education with various technologies. This questionnaire was used to rank the applicants prior to the interviews.

36 phone interviews is a lot, but they’re not necessarily crazy.

I usually conduct between 12 and 20 phone interviews for a position, so it’s certainly more than I’d do … but I wouldn’t assume that they won’t be able to remember anything about the candidates. First of all, they’re almost certainly keeping detailed notes. They’re probably asking everyone the same questions, and my guess is that some of them are very black-and-white questions about your specific IT skill set, which will make it easier to narrow down the candidate pool after this marathon is over.

Frankly, with the job market what it is, this may be a fairer way for them to narrow their pool. If they have a few dozen qualified candidates, the alternative would be not phone-interviewing everyone who seems like a good match. This way, they may be including people who otherwise would be arbitrarily excluded from this first round.

That said — 36 phone interviews in three days sounds like a nightmare. I’ve done something close to that when I’ve been hiring for multiple positions at once and wanted to move quickly on all of them, and it was miserable. Hopefully those people are stronger than me.

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A reader writes:

I lost my job 5 months ago, and was recently hired to a position at a company I love. While researching the company during the interview process, there was a department I preferred to work in, but there were no openings in that department at the time. I did however interview for a position that I know I will still enjoy. When the offer came, I took it happily even though it meant taking a $10,000 pay cut from what I was making previously.

In my preparations to start my new position, I recently was looking over my company’s website and a position in the department I’d ideally like to work in is open. Not only that, it’s a managerial position with greater responsibilities and the pay is back where my salary used to be before I lost my job. I wouldn’t have to worry about making ends meet, which during salary negotiations was made clear to my hiring manager. In addition, most of my work experience is applicable and relevant to this new position anyway. I have about 2 years experience in the position I was hired for and about 8 years of experience in the areas the managerial position calls for.

Is there any chance I could talk to my new company about being considered for this managerial role? I don’t want to seem flighty or that I just took any job to get out of the unemployment ranks. I am genuinely excited about my new position. However, I know that I could make and impact and have longevity in the managerial position in the other department that pays better. I would think a company would want the best fit for all of their employees. And because I just got the offer last week, there is a change the runner up candidate in the position I accepted is still available.

This is delicate, for precisely the reason you pointed out: You don’t want to appear flighty or like you’re not committed to the job you accepted.

If you do this, you need to be very, very careful about how you do it, both in words and in the vibe you give. You don’t want to come across as if you’re coveting this other position, but rather that you’re raising a possibility that might help the company solve a business problem. I think if I were determined to do this, I would say something like this: “I wanted to raise something with you, and if it’s crazy, I won’t give it another thought. I saw you’re hiring a __, which is something I have a lot experience with. Now don’t worry — I’m excited to get to work and have been thinking a lot about ___ (fill this in with a project you’ll be working on in your new role). But I don’t know which of these two jobs is harder to hire for. If this new one is a tougher one to fill, would it be worth talking about whether the company could better utilize me there?”

Be prepared for them to shut you down on this immediately. They may not think you’re the strongest fit for the second position, and/or they may not want to screw over or the manager who has already been told you’re about to start working for her. Or they might just not want the hassle of dealing with something like this, especially if they know they’re not going to have a hard time finding a great fit for the second position, even if they do think you could be good for it too.

On the other hand, who knows, maybe they’ll be open to it.

But I do think it can be a risky move, so weigh all the factors carefully before proceeding.

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A reader writes:

I interviewed with a company earlier this month and for the first time in the year+ I have been unemployed, I knew I completely killed it. I was myself, I clicked with the people, and the technical portions of the interview could not have gone any better. The next day, my feelings were confirmed when the head of their HR team called me to tell me that the team really enjoyed meeting with me, wanted me to know I was the clear “front runner” but because they were early in their interview process, they would have to get back to me in two weeks when the interviews concluded. She also asked if that would be okay with my time line, and of course I said yes, and hung up very excited.

Well, two weeks passed and no word, so I emailed her to see what was going on. According to her, the snow in the last two weeks has pushed back some of the interviews and they won’t be able to make a decision for another “few weeks,” yet she reiterated that I am at the front of the pack with regards to candidates, the team really likes me and she hoped that I could accommodate their timing.

Maybe its because I have had a lot of crushing disappointments this last year+, but I don’t know if I can believe her. It seems (and this happened to me once before) that I am being strung along while they look for a better candidate. Am I paranoid or are my concerns valid?

I guess I feel like if I was truly the best person for the position, they would make me an offer ASAP, especially since they have two other positions open on the team, though in a slightly different role than the one I preferred (though I, and I assume all candidates, interviewed for both). Obviously there’s nothing I can do to speed up their process, but I am expecting to get an offer from another firm at the end of this week and while I am far less interested in that position, I have been unemployed for a LONG time and I don’t know that I can turn down a credible offer in the face of really great feedback with no clear action. What do you think? Am I being too anxious or could there be something to my paranoia?

Actually, there may be something you can do to speed up their process, but we’ll get to that in a second.

First, I wouldn’t assume they’re stringing you along at all. Some companies really take a while to move through the process. Some are just slow. Some have policies or conventions that require them to interview a certain number of candidates. And lots of hiring managers aren’t comfortable hiring a candidate right off the bat, even if the person is an obvious rock star; they still want to see a reasonable number of other candidates, because the responsible thing to do is make a good faith effort toward ensuring they really do have the best candidate, no matter how great you are.

So while you shouldn’t count on this until you have an offer in hand, it doesn’t sound like there’s any reason to doubt that you’re in the strong position they say you’re in. I would never tell a candidate she was my front-runner unless she really was; you just don’t say that to people if it’s not true. It would be weird and gratuitous, like saying “I love you” to a date you’re not sure you even want to see again. Again, none of this is a guarantee — but they don’t sound like they’re intentionally stringing you along.

Now. If you do get another offer in the meanwhile, here is what you should do: Ask the company making the offer when they need to hear back from you by. Best case scenario, you’ll get a week — but be aware that a few days is not uncommon, so you want to move quickly. (And if they ask how long you need in order to make a decision, don’t ask for longer than a week; they’ll start questioning your interest level.) Then, contact the other company immediately. Explain that they are your first choice and you really want to work for them, but that you just got an offer that the clock is ticking on. If they’re as interested in you as they seem, they may expedite things so that they don’t lose you.

A variation of this: You can contact them right now, without the other offer, and tell them that you’re expecting to get one within days. That may get things moving too.

Good luck!

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A reader writes:

I’ve been with my current employer for just over 5 years and have a really great relationship with my boss. While I used to love my job, over the past year or so, I’ve started to lose interest and have started looking for another job. An opportunity presented itself in another city which I’m currently interviewing for. They head-hunted me and so far the job is looking promising – after a phone interview with HR and an interview with my potential boss, they’re flying me out to meet the team (paying for my hotel, car and flights).

My problem is I have a performance review with my current employer a few days before I fly out for my interview. My boss has hinted at the fact that she knows I’m unhappy at the moment and has asked where I see myself going in the company, which she said we could discuss in my review.

My question is – what do I say in my review? Should I be honest and say I’m interviewing for another job? I don’t want to shoot myself in the foot and give her a reason to fire me off or treat me unfairly if I don’t get the job (though I do expect she would reply reasonably). I would feel bad about misleading her in any way (and am a horrible liar), so if she asks me straight up where I see myself going with the company, I’m not sure how I should respond, especially given that I don’t see myself staying there too far in the future.

Don’t say that you’re interviewing for another job. You may not get it or you may decide it’s not for you. There’s no reason to be that specific, until you get an offer that you’re going to accept.

However, you should talk to her honestly about why you’re not as content as you used to be. Think about the factors that pushed you to start looking, and talk to her about those (without mentioning that you have a job search in progress). You never know — if you talk to her honestly about that, she might be able to address those things. You might get offered a different job with your current company that would make you happier. Or you might not — but you’ll have been honest with her about your thinking, and if you do end up leaving sometime soon, she’ll appreciate that you didn’t let her think that everything was fine. Good luck!

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Remember the person who wrote in last November to ask what do about her coworker who was working as a prostitute during business hours? Of course you do; everyone was clamoring for an update from her when I did those “where are they now” updates.

She just wrote in with an update, in a comment on a recent post:

I did follow your advice and I no longer do her work. I mean, she is still prostituting during working hours and in our restroom but I have nothing to do with it. Sooner or later she will get caught, but at least I won’t be involved in that. So once again, thank you very much!

I think we were all hoping for more details, preferably salacious ones, but hey, it’s something.

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A reader writes:

I am trying to decide if it is too risky to leave my current position for a better one that is a contract position.

I’m currently underemployed. I’m making $30,000/yr less than I did before I was laid off, but at least I’m working in my field. I don’t enjoy my job, my department is quite dysfunctional, and I don’t make enough to keep my head above water. If I don’t find a new job soon, I will have to foreclose on my house. On the bright side, my job is very secure. My company was recently awarded a large government contract so we are safe from lay-offs for at least 4 years.

I have an opportunity to take a better position with a fabulous company. The job is more aligned with my long term career goals. The downside is it’s a contract position for 1 year. The salary is close to what I used to make. It would be enough to allow me to keep my house and work my way out of debt, even after I factor in that I would have to buy my own health insurance.

I’m torn between sticking with the security of my current job, even though I’m in the red every month vs. a job that would cover my expenses but has the risk of being unemployed a year from now. I know you don’t have a crystal ball to predict what the economy will be like next year. I just want to make sure I’m not missing something when I weigh the risks vs. benefits. I feel like I’m so concerned with the money that I’m overlooking something else. What am I missing?

I’d take the contract job. Here’s why:

If you stay in your current job, you know you will lose your house. That’s guaranteed, and that’s a big deal. Yes, you have employment for four years, but it’s employment that you don’t like and which isn’t paying you what you’re worth somewhere else. So you’d be signing up for four years of low quality of life. (There’s also no certainty that you’ll be secure there for four years, despite the contract. You could clash with a boss, they could lose the contract, etc.)

If you take the contract job, you push yourself forward, professionally and financially. You know it only lasts a year, so you can spend that year networking and building relationships — and your savings — so that when it’s time to move on, you have a safety net waiting for you.

Anyone want to disagree?

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aren’t you sick of me yet?

February 23, 2010

Aren’t you guys sick of me yet? It’s been almost three years of me blabbing at you. How is it that I still have readers?

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A reader writes:

I’m a new manager in a very small team — my office is about 6 people, including my boss (the self-proclaimed CEO). There’s no HR, and generally we’re all on the same playing field.

Except, apparently, when it comes to me. I was unofficially promoted when my manager left — my official job description and pay has never changed. Directly underneath me, I have one person. He and I are quite close and generally work well together. However I’m having trouble being his manager. First, because while I’m expected to be accountable when something goes wrong, my boss refuses to make sure all tasks assigned to him go through me, meaning that quite often I don’t know he’s, say, missed a deadline until after he’s done it and I’m called on the carpet to explain why said task was unfinished. How can I help him manage his time and his tasks if I’m out of the loop on so many of them? Is it correct for my boss to assume that he must be responsible for telling me what other people in the company ask him to do? Or be responsible for setting up his own work plan, in a company extremely deadline-oriented, and where there are several other people who, while technically on the same management level as me, are paid more and are significantly more experienced and older than me?

Secondly, while I am newer to the company and paid far far less than the last person in my position or my direct colleagues, they still expect me be in charge. One man in particular, who’s been here three years longer than me and is in a position of authority himself, has over the last year taken to dumping administrative tasks on me, dumping responsibility for mistakes completely on my shoulders (including mistakes made by his team which I then have to clean up) and most important liaising with our mutual boss. Because I don’t actually have a job description, his go-to answer for months has been “that’s part of your job.” And in the beginning, when I was brand new and confused, I accepted that as sage and wise advise from a longtime employee. Now, however, it’s beginning to affect my own work — I’m having a hard time getting all of my own tasks completed, as well as managing the guy under me (who needs help as he also is very young and inexperienced), while completing admin tasks I’m starting to feel aren’t my own for other people. Recently other employees have also adopted these “that’s part of your job” techniques, so the problem is spreading. What can I do? I’ve spoken to my boss and been told I need to “step up,” but that was never made clear. I’ve requested terms of reference and they haven’t materialized because my boss is “so busy.”

How can I get the respect of my coworkers and people I’m supposed to manage, if they all treat me like the slightly-slow cousin at the family picnic, until they need someone to clean up their mistakes?

You have two different issues here: the guy you manage and the question of exactly what your job is (or isn’t).

Regarding the guy you manage, there are a lot of jobs where it would be reasonable for people to give him work directly, without routing it through you, but where you’re still responsible for his overall performance since you’re his manager. I’ll assume for the sake of ease that this is one of them. If you’re hearing complaints that he’s missing deadlines or otherwise not excelling, the answer doesn’t have to be that you have to force people to route his work through you (which, frankly, is likely to be inefficient hand-holding that you shouldn’t have to do). Rather, you need to address the problems with him directly. If he misses a deadline, talk to him and find out why. Push him to correct whatever it is in his systems or approach that caused it. If the problem has become a pattern, tell him it’s become a pattern. (You’d be amazed how often people need this pointed out.) Treat it as a performance issue, meaning that you (a) coach him and give him the chance to improve, (b) warn him if he continues falling short, and (c) replace him if the problems are serious and he continues not to meet the bar you need.

I’m assuming that you have the authority to do that. If you don’t, you need to get it, because it’s unreasonable to be accountable for someone’s performance if you don’t.

Which leads nicely into the next point you need to tackle: getting clarity on exactly what your role is, and where your energy should and should not be going. You say you’ve asked your boss for this and been told she’s too busy. So the next step is for you to take the initiative to make this happen. Create a proposed job description for yourself. Create a second list of things that people sometimes ask you to do now that don’t fall within the proposed job description, and a proposal for how those things should be handled instead. Take it to your boss and ask if you’re on the same page. She may disagree with parts — that’s fine. The whole point is to hash this out so that you two get aligned.

By the way, be prepared for the possibility that you’ll discover that your boss does want you doing everything on both lists, even the stuff that you thought wasn’t your job. Maybe it is your job. If you think it’s too much, ask her about how to handle that; for instance, is it okay for you to tell someone that you can’t help them with project A because you need to get project B done first? Or does she expect you to get it all done? If so, before you decide she’s being unreasonable, read this very old post about what to do when you feel your boss is being unrealistic.

The whole point of this process, though, is to get you both on the same page about what your role is.

Right now, it sounds like you’re struggling along in a role that has no real clarity to it, at least not on your side. Address that, and everything should get easier. Good luck.

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A reader writes:

I work at a smallish (600 students, 40 or so full-time employees) private for-profit educational institution. Our classes are generally M-Tu-Th, but potential students (customers!) and other members of the community are on campus all day every day. Culture and policy here is that it’s OK to wear jeans on Fridays. Recently, some staff and faculty (including the president) have started dressing down on Wednesdays as well.

One of my colleagues, who works with potential new students and current students throughout the day five days per week, has taken to wearing jeans and an untucked t-shirt on Wednesdays. It’s important to me to dress professionally – ties or sweaters on class days, oxford-style shirts W and F – and I feel like my colleague’s dress is unprofessional, presents a poor image to new students and the community, and, in a small but real way, makes it harder for us to pursue our mission of helping students move from paycheck-to-paycheck living to a career.

I’m debating whether it would be best to ignore it, speak to my colleague directly, or speak to my manager or hers. I’d love your thoughts.

You’re both peers, right? I’d let it go.

If her manager has a problem with it, she’ll address with your coworker. It sounds like she probably doesn’t object, and so therefore it’s not really appropriate for you to butt in.

Now, if you weren’t peers and she were under you in the hierarchy, it wouldn’t be totally inappropriate to discreetly mention to her manager that you think she could use some pointers on what level of professional dress is expected. Or if this person saw you as a mentor, it could be appropriate to mention it directly to her, in a kind way. But neither of these sounds like the case here.

Rather, it sounds like the culture there is one where what she’s wearing is actually okay. You don’t need to like that or dress that way yourself, but she’s doing something that’s allowed.

Look at this another way: How would you take it if your colleague came to you and said, “I know that we’re not required to be here until 9:00, but I like to come in at 7:00 and really think that you should do the same.” You’d probably prefer she focus on herself and let you manage your own behavior, right? Same thing here.

This isn’t to say that you should never approach a coworker with suggestions directly; there are plenty of times where that’s appropriate and even necessary. But this one doesn’t rise to that level.

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A reader writes:

You answered a question for me before and I thank you! I got a new job and I cannot tell you how many times I used your blog as a reference. It really is fantastic. I am going to recommend it to everyone I know, not just those seeking jobs.

This is my last week in my current position; I gave notice a week and a half ago. I’m wondering…who has the responsibility of scheduling a meeting about status of projects, how to handle the transition, etc? Is it mine or my supervisor’s? This has not occurred yet for me. There is lots of background in my relationship with this person, which is why I ask. I probably would have already done it if it weren’t for other circumstances.

I would not use my supervisor for a future reference if that has a difference in your answer. I don’t have a problem doing it, I am just asking where you think the burden really lies. I could do it just to be the better person, but then again, I’m leaving and it really is her problem if she doesn’t know what’s going on. She has proven to me that the company owes me nothing…and she deserves it for reasons that are another whole post.

A good manager would schedule this meeting with you herself; she also would have sat down with you when you first gave notice to go over your projects, how you should spend your remaining time, and what documentation you should leave behind.

But if your manager isn’t doing that on her own, you should do it, no matter what your objections are to her. Here’s why:

* It’s the right thing to do. Your obligation is really to your employer, not to her personally, and doing your job well means doing this sort of wrap-up, even if your manager isn’t handling it well. If you are someone who does a good job, this is as much a part of it as anything else.

* You may not care about a reference from this manager, but you never know where she’ll pop up again in the future — or who she might know who you might be applying for a job with someday. No matter what you think of her, do yourself the favor of leaving on as good terms as you can mange.

* Other people will notice. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve raved about an employee for the way they left a position, or heard a new employee blessing her predecessor for an incredibly detailed job manual that was bequeathed to them. So many people mentally check out after giving notice that the ones who don’t really make an impression on people. Do a good job in this last week and people will hear about it.

Do the right thing and then go on to your new job feeling good about what you’ve left behind. And congratulations!

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