am I being too needy with my new boss?

Two questions: One from someone worried about being too needy with a new boss, and one from someone wondering how to ask her assistant to stop giving her gifts.

A reader writes:

I’m a few months into a new position that I’m not entirely sure I’m qualified for. This new role would more typically be filled by someone with a strong tech background; an understanding of network protocols, some basic programming skills, and probably a few years of sysadmin experience. My background is in something completely different – I’ve got a graduate degree in a social science and nearly 15 years of work experience in very academic nonprofits that directly relate to that degree. Due to a combination of factors, I ended up moving from several states away and taking an entry-level customer service position at my current company. I saw a need for someone to be fluent with a particular tool, taught myself to use it, and used it to build some new tools to help coworkers be faster and more accurate. The work I did impressed a few different people, and now I’m working directly for one of them.

My new boss and I have talked about what I do and don’t bring to the table. He says that I’m good with analyzing data, that I have shown I learn quickly, and that my background helps me translate between my new team and some of the less technical teams. On a day-to-day basis, though, I often feel like I’m not pulling my weight, and I end up asking my teammates to explain really, really basic stuff (I have some wonderful, patient people on my new team) or end up taking five or six times longer on a simple task because I need to Google most of the words. To make things worse, I’m based in a different office (and in a different timezone) than the rest of my team. We’ve got a pretty good team chat going, but there’s a million different subtle team-culture things that I feel like I’m just not sure about, and the uncertainty can get paralyzing sometimes.

My boss is great, and makes an effort to check in specifically with me every few weeks. I always ask how I’m doing, and what I can do better. The last few conversations, though, I’m getting the sense that it’s perhaps starting to annoy him – but again, I’m all the way over here, so maybe he was just having a bad day? He says that I’m exceeding expectations, and he’ll let me know if I ever get down to just meeting them. That doesn’t seem like it can be true, though, and I’m driving myself to distraction trying to figure out how to become competent at this job.

Am I asking for too much feedback? How do you get more constructive feedback when all you ever hear is that you’re doing great? Or am I in fact doing great, and it’s just that my expectations for myself are way off? And if my expectations are the ones that need adjusting, how do I let go of those expectations and trust that my boss is right and I’m doing a good job?

Well, you’re only a few months into a job that’s a real change for you — of course you’re feeling overwhelmed. That’s very, very normal. In fact, even in jobs that aren’t entirely new areas of work, I’m fairly sure that it takes somewhere around six months in most professional jobs to start feeling like you really know what you’re doing, and sometimes longer. Often, too, it’s because of exactly the factors you described: not yet having a basic foundation in the subject matter and having to stop to look up things that everyone else already knows, and simultaneously having to learn a whole new office culture while you do it.

That can be really unsettling if you’ve never experienced it before, and it can drive you to do things like ask your boss if you’re doing okay every time you talk to him. But I’d resist that impulse. It does sound like you’re asking a lot, if you’re asking for broad, how-am-I-doing feedback every time he checks in with you. And if he’s telling you that you’re exceeding expectations, the most likely explanation is … that you’re exceeding expectations. Unless he is a truly terrible manager, he wouldn’t tell you that if you were actually disappointing him in significant ways. This might become more intuitive if you put yourself in his shoes: If you had serious concerns about a new employee, would you tell her that she was exceeding expectations? Not “You’re doing okay” or, “Well, you’re still new and learning,” but exceeding expectations? You would not, and he almost certainly isn’t either.

I mean, I’ve certainly been guilty of waiting too long to have a difficult feedback conversation with someone — show me a manager who isn’t a jerk and who hasn’t dragged their feet on that at some point — but you know who gets candid feedback the fastest? People who make it really easy for the manager to broach the subject. By regularly asking how you’re doing, you’ve been making it as easy as possible for your boss to say, “Actually, this isn’t going quite as I had hoped,” and he is not saying that. So, yes, believe him.

This doesn’t mean, though, that you can’t request feedback at all. It just means that you should pull back on the frequent requests for general “am I doing okay?” feedback. But what you can do instead, and what I suspect he’d be more receptive to, is ask more specific questions. Tell him about an obstacle in a project you’re working on and ask for his advice about how to approach it. Or ask to debrief a recent project and tell him how you think it went at some point — the good parts and the could-have-been-better parts — and the lessons you’re taking away from it. Ask if that sounds right to him. This is the kind of thing that can’t be answered with “You’re doing great”; it’s going to get you into a much more nuanced (and probably useful) conversation about the actual details of your work.

Read an update to this letter here.

How can I ask my assistant to stop giving me gifts?

I am a young, female lawyer, with an assistant I share with one other lawyer.

My assistant is great at her job, but very high-strung and sensitive, and we have been through a steep learning curve together around management skills (mine) and being calm and less emotional at work (her). She is valuable and I want her to feel that, and I want her to be happy and fulfilled in her job because I’m a decent human being. However, I don’t want to be friends.

The problem: She buys me presents. Christmas, my wedding, my birthday, even chocolates on Valentine’s Day, etc. It’s very sweet, but 1) I feel very uncomfortable with my assistant buying me gifts, and 2) it’s not a culture I want to participate in. I get my assistant flowers for Administrative Professionals Day and on other appropriate occasions, as well as a gift at Christmas (which is expected here). I want to end the arms race, but I don’t want her to feel bad.

Help?

Gifts are such a fraught thing at work, largely because work is a place that’s full of power dynamics and obligations. On the employee side of things, it’s easy to start wondering if giving gifts is sometimes obligatory (although more often at times like Christmas than on Valentine’s Day!) Lots of ickiness arises from people feeling pressured to buy gifts for their managers, especially if other people around them are doing it. You shouldn’t have to give gifts to the person who controls your income, but it still can feel really awkward to be the one person who didn’t give the boss a birthday gift.

Complicating matters further, sometimes gifts are truly just genuine expressions of goodwill, so it’s tough to say to someone, essentially, “Cut out these lovely expressions of kindness.”

But it’s entirely reasonable for you to do that as a manager — both because it’s making the relationship something you don’t want it to be, and because it’s a reasonable stance for managers to take in general (see power dynamics above).

The trick, of course, is in how to say it without making her feel bad. I’d say it this way: “It’s so kind of you to think of me on these occasions. You have great taste and I constantly use the beautiful blue vase you gave me for my birthday. But I would never want you to feel obligated to give me a gift — and while you might not feel that way now, it could feel like an obligation someday. With me being your manager, that can be a sticky dynamic. So because of that, I’m going to ask you not to continue with the gifts. I really appreciate that you’re a thoughtful and generous person, but in this case, just continuing to do the great job you always do is all the gift I need.”

The language complimenting her taste and a particular gift is intended to lower the chances that she’ll feel embarrassed and start wondering if this whole time you hated the things she was giving you. This framing makes it more about you looking out for her and the relationship in general, and that should be easier to swallow. She may still be a little embarrassed, but it should ease some of the sting.

Originally published at New York Magazine.

my best employee quit on the spot because I wouldn’t let her go to her college graduation

A reader writes:

I manage a team, and part of their jobs is to provide customer support over the phone. Due to a new product launch, we are expected to provide service outside of our normal hours for a time. This includes some of my team coming in on a day our office is normally closed (based on lowest seniority because no one volunteered).

One employee asked to come in two hours after the start time due to her college graduation ceremony being that same day (she was taking night classes part-time in order to earn her degree). I was unable to grant her request because she was the employee with the lowest seniority and we need coverage for that day. I said that if she could find someone to replace her for those two hours, she could start later. She asked her coworkers, but no one was willing to come in on their day off. After she asked around, some people who were not scheduled for the overtime did switch shifts with other people (but not her) and volunteered to take on overtime from others who were scheduled, but these people are friends outside of work, and as long as there is coverage I don’t interfere if people want to give or take overtime of their own accord. (Caveat: I did intervene and switch one person’s end time because they had concert tickets that they had already paid for, but this was a special circumstance because there was cost involved.)

I told this team member that she could not start two hours late and that she would have to skip the ceremony. An hour later, she handed me her work ID and a list of all the times she had worked late/come in early/worked overtime for each and every one of her coworkers. Then she quit on the spot.

I’m a bit upset because she was my best employee by far. Her work was excellent, she never missed a day of work in the six years she worked here, and she was my go-to person for weekends and holidays.

Even though she doesn’t work here any longer, I want to reach out and tell her that quitting without notice because she didn’t get her way isn’t exactly professional. I only want to do this because she was an otherwise great employee, and I don’t want her to derail her career by doing this again and thinking it is okay. She was raised in a few dozen different foster homes and has no living family. She was homeless for a bit after she turned 18 and besides us she doesn’t have anyone in her life that has ever had professional employment. This is the only job she has had. Since she’s never had anyone to teach her professional norms, I want to help her so she doesn’t make the same mistake again. What do you think is the best way for me to do this?

What?! No, under no circumstances should you do that.

If anything, you should consider reaching out to her, apologizing for how you handled the situation, and offering her the job back if she wants it.

I’m not usually a fan of people quitting on the spot, but I applaud her for doing it in this case. She was raised in dozens of foster homes, used to be homeless, has no living family, and apparently managed to graduate from college all on her own. That’s amazing. And while I normally think graduation ceremonies are primarily fluff, I’m hard-pressed to think of anyone who deserves to be able to attend her own graduation ceremony as much as this woman does. You should have been bending over backwards to ensure she could attend.

Rigidly adhering to rules generally isn’t good management. Good management requires nuance and judgment. Sometimes it requires making exceptions for good employees so that you don’t lose them. Sometimes it requires assessing not just what the rules say but what the right and smart thing to do would be.

One of the frustrating things about your letter is that despite rigidly adhering to the rules with this person, you were willing to make an exception for someone else (the person with the concert tickets). I’m at a loss to understand how concert tickets are an obvious exception-maker but this person’s situation wasn’t.

And you note that she was your “best employee by far”! She never missed a day of work in six years, she was your go-to person, she covered for every other person there, and she was all-around excellent … and yet when she needed you to help her out with something that was important to her, you refused.

There’s a lesson to be learned here, but it’s not for her.

Read an update to this letter here

one of our coworkers is putting nails in our car tires, company gifts that include pork and alcohol, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. I think one of our coworkers is intentionally putting nails in our car tires

I’m concerned that one of our employees is intentionally putting nails in our tires as some sort of retaliation for trying to hold him/her accountable for their quality of work. The four most senior team members in our department (myself included) have found nails in our tires within a small time span of several weeks. They were all the exact same type of nail, and none of us recall driving in or around any areas where nails would typically be found. I think it’s too much of a coincidence, considering we are the only ones that ruffle anyone’s feathers in the sense that we have taken steps to try to address the poor quality of work done by our recent batch of hires.

This recent batch of hires was brought on-board by our former management team with no interview or screening process. We have a new management team now, but we’re stuck with the new batch of hires who have proven to be untrainable, contribute to a very toxic work environment, and who have not-so-subtly indicated to us the fact that they think we’re too young for the positions we hold. Since they know we have higher salaries, are better off financially, drive nice cars, etc, I can see someone getting very resentful and retaliating.

I want to stay with the company largely in part because they are paying for my graduate degree, structured as a six-figure tax-free reimbursement with no strings attached. I’ve got one year left but I’m starting to worry for my safety given what has been happening.

I’m not quite sure what to do. I consider myself fortunate this time, as it only cost me $40 to patch the tire (one of my colleagues wasn’t as fortunate as they had to replace their tires at a cost of close to $1,000), but I’m thinking this could just be the beginning. This time it’s just a nail, what’s next? Keying my car? Smashing my window?

Two things: First, if this is a pattern (and it sounds like it is, if it’s happened to four of you), the four of you should insist that whatever appropriate person in your company take steps to stop it — whether it’s cameras in the parking lot or something else. Second, you’re not stuck with this toxic batch of hires — or at least your company isn’t. Push back on whoever is telling you that you’re stuck with them. Someone should be managing them, which means setting a high bar for performance and behavior and holding them to it, and enforcing consequences when it’s not met. It’s not reasonable for whoever is managing them to just throw up their hands and say “oh well.” Someone here isn’t doing their job, and it’s not just these new hires.

Read an update to this letter here.

2. Company gifts that include pork and alcohol

I saw one of your recent posts about accommodating various dietary restrictions when ordering lunches for a group of people and I thought I’d write to you about a similar issue I’m facing. Last week at work, we achieved a major milestone by completing a very important project with our biggest client. It’s taken years of hard work by all our teams to reach this point, and one of the ways in which our company rewarded us was to give each person a nice gift basket. The gift basket contains a variety of pork sausages, as well as a variety of wines and champagnes. Here’s the problem: I’m Jewish and keep kosher, as does one of my team members, and we have several coworkers of other faiths who also can’t eat pork and/or drink alcohol. In short, a good number of us couldn’t accept this gift because of our religious practices, and we honestly feel a little left out.

We’ve worked just as hard as our other coworkers, so couldn’t a little more consideration have been given into choosing a gift that everyone can partake in, or at least having other gift options available? For more context, our company is about 100 people divided up into 10 teams, and we’re all pretty well-acquainted with each other, so I don’t think ignorance of our restrictions is an excuse, or that it’s too difficult to accommodate everyone.

I mentioned my feelings to another coworker who told me that it’s our fault for “excluding ourselves” and that nobody is “forcing” us to practice our religions this way. I find that response pretty insensitive, but now it’s got me second-guessing myself. I’m pretty close to the person responsible for arranging the gifts — should I say something about it (even though it’s already too late), or move on? Are we right to feel left out by this, or is it not a big deal?

Yeah, the gift is thoughtless. Well-meant, no doubt, but thoughtless nonetheless, particularly in the context you’ve described.

If the person in charge of selecting the gifts is at all competent at her job, she’d appreciate a heads-up that the gift posed a religious conflict for a bunch of you. It’s true that in social situations, you don’t get to dictate what kind of gift someone gives you, but this is a bit different — this kind of thing at work is ultimately a retention and morale strategy, so a decent company is going to want to know that it’s doing the opposite of boosting morale.

I’d say it this way: “It’s great to get recognition for our work, but I wanted to mention to you that there are a bunch of us on staff who can’t eat pork or drink alcohol for religious reasons. I’m hoping the company might make a note of it for the future so we don’t inadvertently leave people out.”

And as for your coworker’s response that you’re “excluding yourselves,” that’s more than insensitive; it’s ridiculous — so ridiculous that you should discount it (and future opinions from this person) entirely.

3. My manager chastised me for doing something she had okayed

So I had asked my manager in advance to leave an hour early in order to move. Granted, I was asking to leave an event where that usually is not allowed, but I asked a couple weeks before and she could have said no. However, she said yes, but only if all problems or issues had been solved. They were, and before I left I asked her if there was anything else, and she said I could go.

The next day, she invites me into her office and tells me, “I think I hold you to a higher standard than you hold yourself, and I shouldn’t have let you go early.” I was very offended by that first phrase. In the same breath, she told me that there were no problems once I had gone. All my work was done, I asked if there was anything else to do before I left, and she said I could go. So basically she reprimanded me for something she told me I could do. Do I let her know that she offended me, or do I just let it go?

Making a point about being offended isn’t the way to go; that makes it more about your emotions than it should be. But it would be reasonable to say something like, “I wanted to follow up with you about our conversation the other day. I took you at your word that it was okay for me to leave once I had all my work handled, and I trusted that you’d tell me if I shouldn’t go. So I’m concerned to hear that you did in fact think it was a problem. Are you saying I shouldn’t have asked at all, even though you told me it was fine?”

Frankly, it does sound like that’s what she’s saying— that you shouldn’t have asked at all. But it’s on her that she okayed it, and it’s not reasonable for her to turn around and blame you for that.

4. What can I do about the bad manager at my old job?

What do you do when you have tried talking to upper management and even HR and the district manager about how your manager is and nothing has happened?

It has been two weeks that I no longer work in the job that I am talking about. In my exit interview, I told HR the reality of how problematic the manager was. Nine people left during her one year of management. I heard from my coworkers who still work there that she is either transferring or leaving the company, but she has been writing up people left and right for things that should not be written up. She has had so many complaints against her and never once have I seen her get reprimanded. I believe it is because of her close friendship with the district manager. I have considered calling HR and following up, but I am not sure if that is the best course of action or just letting it play itself out.

You don’t work there anymore, right? This is no longer your problem to solve! You gave your input, and now it’s up to them what they do with it. But if you’re no longer an employee, you don’t really have any standing to follow up on this or otherwise stay involved. Move on mentally, and accept that it’s going to play out however it plays out … and that you shouldn’t be following along because you should make a clean break.

5. Is it bad to use parentheses in cover letters?

While I was taking a break from writing cover letters, I looked up a couple examples of good ones on your site. Something I noticed surprised me; there two letters (one, two) that use at least one or two sets of parentheses. My natural writing style mimics my speaking style, and I use parentheses in the same way that these letter writers do. I’ve been struggling to edit them out my cover letters because they make a lot of sense to me (not in a grammatical sense, but in a story-telling sense). See!

What are your thoughts on this? Is it dependent on industry? The companies I’m applying to are in very relaxed industries, not legal or finance or the like.

Parentheses aren’t inherently bad in cover letters. You should be judicious about their use, but there’s no no-parentheses-in-cover-letters rule.

If they help you write a more effective or personal or conversational cover letter, parentheses are fine to use. You obviously don’t want to use them in seven different places, but once or twice isn’t going to be an issue.

Independence Day round-up

It’s the 4th of July and I’m taking the rest of the day off! But here are five posts with an independence theme —

1. In 2011, I published a letter from a reader who didn’t want her coworkers to know that she was living off of food from the employee kitchen. She was struggling financially and couldn’t afford meals, let alone new clothes, when her employer changed its casual dress code to one that prohibited jeans … and started requiring a $5 “donation” for every violation. Her three pairs of pants were all jeans. Here’s her update two months later, and another update three years later.

2. Here’s an update from a reader who had been promised a raise and promotion three years ago and never received it — and who took control of the situation and got herself a much happier ending.

3. Here’s a reader who was trying to escape her parents’ dysfunctional business — and the happy update.

4. Here’s a post about how to combat the weird power dynamics you probably have in your head while you’re job-searching.

5. Here’s a story of independence gone terribly wrong.

coworkers didn’t leave enough money for the bill after a group dinner

A reader writes:

Last night, a group from my department went out to celebrate another employee. It was a happy hour/dinner at a karaoke bar. There were seven of us total from my dept. The seven employees included two managers (including myself), three other senior employees (not managers), and one lower level employee [who is not my direct report; her girlfriend was also in attendance (not a member of my department)].

Four people left the dinner early and left money for the bill. When the bill came, it was a bit higher than anticipated and those who left the dinner earlier hadn’t left enough money. I hate when things get messy when the bill comes. It was obvious that no one was going to pony up the money needed to cover the remainder of the bill, and so I did it, just to get the thing settled so we could go. I ended up paying more than double what I should have paid. During the bill settling, the lower level employee was texting one of the senior employees who had left early to inform her about the bill issues.

What would be the best way to approach this with coworkers to try to recoup some of the additional money put out? If this was a $20 situation, I wouldn’t pursue it, but overall I paid $80+ more than I should have. I fretted all night and during my commute in on how to address this. I figured an email BCC’ing those involved with some sort of statement that this is uncomfortable to approach, but I’d like to resolve the situation, might work. My brother suggested a direct and short email such as “Hey, I wanted to clear up the bill from last night. I ended up paying $160 for dinner and would really like to balance this out a little more.” I thought that was a great approach. He and I agreed it’s also very touchy when not dealt with immediately, but you can imagine the challenge of trying to resolve this in real-time, with people who have been drinking for a few hours, and are all very tired and want to go home.

As it turns out, when I got to work this morning, a few of those who had left early recognized their shortcoming on the bill (due to lower level employee’s texts) and paid me back, which, of course, I am extremely happy with. But what if I didn’t work with such a self-aware group of extremely reasonable people? I’m sure this comes up a lot.

I think the original statement you were thinking of — “this is uncomfortable to approach, but I’d like to resolve the situation” — actually makes it more awkward than it needs to be. Approaching it so gingerly is almost kind of insulting to them, because it implies that you think they wouldn’t just immediately pay up once they hear what happened.

The way to go in situations like this is to just be totally matter-of-fact. Work from the assumption that of course as soon as they have all the info about the situation, they’ll want to pay the remaining amount the owe (because that’s generally going to be true). That means that you can just say it this way: “Hey, wanted to let you know that the bill last night came to $X and we didn’t have enough from the money y’all left behind to cover your shares. I ended up putting in $160 to cover it — can you settle up with me in the next few days? Thanks!”

Of course, that assumes that the people who left first really do owe money. If they all had one drink each and those of you who stayed longer had three, it’s not fair to ask them to split the bill equally.

is your resume supposed to stretch the truth, office bathrooms aren’t working, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Employer wants us to come to work even though our bathrooms won’t be working

I work at a university, and we received notice last week that water will be shut off for all buildings on our street on Tuesday.. We are expected to come to work (there is a strict “no work-from-home” policy) and to use restrooms at nearby university buildings, the closest one being a block away. My office is on the fourth floor of what used to be a house, so there is no elevator (unless I go down one floor, cross over to the adjoining building, and take the old and extremely slow elevator from there). This means that whenever I need a bathroom, I will need to spend a minimum of 5-10 minutes trying to get to one.

Our HR department tends to be very by-the-books, so I suppose the availability of facilities in other university-owned buildings covers any potential OSHA violations, so this isn’t a question of “is this legal.” I’m interested in whether you think HR is making the right call by mandating that we come to work rather than making an exception to the work-from-home policy.

(For what it’s worth, I am considering asking my manager to make a personal exception or to allow me to use PTO. I think it’s absurd and a huge waste of time to have to leave the building and scale four flights of stairs twice every time I need a restroom.)

Nope, I think they’re making a bad call. It’s not reasonable to ask people to take a 5-10-minute (or longer) hike when they need a bathroom. And how is this going to apply to people with disabilities who may not be able to easily accommodate that?

I’m also not sure it’s legal. OSHA requires bathrooms to be available “at every worksite,” although I’m not sure how they’re defining that. They also mandate that “employers allow employees prompt access to bathroom facilities,” and that “restrictions on access must be reasonable, and may not cause extended delays.”

2. Are you supposed to stretch the truth on your resume?

Are you supposed to pad your resume somewhat when applying for jobs? I just recently landed a new job six months ago, and the resume I sent to my now-boss was a 100% valid list of projects I completed and examples of going above and beyond. In other words, I didn’t lie or stretch the truth about my experience or skill levels.

So far two other employees have been hired in my department. It came to light that both of them lied on their resumes to some degree, and the jobs they were hired for were well above their experience level. One has been fired, and the other is there still but floundering. My remaining coworker has the same job title as me, and I can’t help but feel resentment that we are getting paid roughly the same but I have more experience. She accidentally let it slip that she worked with tea pot makers in her last job, but never actually worked as one. In my experience, it’s common to liaison with other departments at any job, but that doesn’t mean you gain the knowledge to be competent at their position through interacting with them. My boss and others have also voiced concerns privately that she padded her resume to get the job.

I’m not sure if I should be kicking myself now, as I feel I somewhat undersold myself and question if I could have gotten a better job. On the other hand, my skills and experience are not being questioned like my other coworkers, and that’s a position I never want to be in.

What?! No, you shouldn’t be kicking yourself, and no, you are not supposed to stretch the truth when applying for jobs. Your two coworker are perfect examples of why — one has been fired for lying on her resume, and the other is struggling and in poor standing.

Misrepresenting your experience can seriously harm your career for all the reasons I talk about here.

3. Coworker keeps commenting on my pregnant body

I work at a growing medical center, I am the owner’s assistant/ medical biller/ accounts payables and receivables. I have been with the company for about three years. I am five months pregnant. My weight is normally around 118 and my height is 5’0. At this point in my pregnancy, I’ve gained 10 pounds, which according to my doctor is a good amount of weight at this point in the pregnancy.

Well, the director of operations, who is the owner’s right hand, has been constantly commenting about my body in front of my coworkers. She says things to me like “you’ve got a turtle body since you got pregnant” and “what a strange body you have now, you’re so wide.” It makes me very uncomfortable. Is this okay? Because I really think those comments are very unnecessary whether it be in front of others or when I’m alone with her. Please advise.

Hell, no, that’s not okay. That’s incredibly rude, and you have every right to tell her to stop. The next time she makes one of these comments, say this: “Jane, please don’t comment on my body. Thank you.” If she continues after that, say, “I’ve asked you not to comment on my body. You’re being incredibly rude.” You can also try, “Why would you say that?” and “I really don’t want to hear your thoughts on my body. Please stop.”

4. How different should your thank-you notes be from each other, when sending several of them?

I read your post on writing multiple thank-you notes for multiple interviews. I was wondering how different you should make those notes from one another. How personalized do they need to be? Can you write everyone a note saying essentially the same thing, or would that look insincere?

You definitely don’t want them to all say the same thing! Even if they’re going to different people, interviewers will often share them with each other, and you don’t want them to look like form letters.

Keep in mind that post-interview thank-you notes aren’t really about thanking them; they’re about following up on the conversation and reiterating your interest and enthusiasm. You can make each note different by building on whatever was discussed in the most recent conversation.

5. Sharing a personal reason for wanting to work for a nonprofit

I went through a phone interview two weeks ago with a nonprofit that deals with cancer research and awareness. During the interview, the interviewer asked me why I want to work for them. Well, I answered that it’s because I want to help them with creating more awareness for cancer, and my grandmother had the cancer and passed away three years ago. Overall, the interview went very well and she said the next steps in the hiring process would be to invite candidates to an in-person interview.

It’s been almost two weeks and she didn’t invite me for another interview. Did I make a mistake by telling her my personal reason of why I want to work there?

I doubt it. It’s pretty normal to share that kind of thing when interviewing for a health-related or cause-related nonprofit; they hear that sort of thing all the time.

That said, it’s generally going to be a stronger answer is it’s not just about a family member’s situation. Ideally you’d also talk about what appeal to you about their approach and the particular job that you’re interviewing for.

holiday weekend free-for-all – July 2-4, 2016

olive 4thThis comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. (This one is truly no work and no school. If you have a work question, please email it to me or post it in the work-related open thread on Fridays.)

Book recommendation of the week: Never Let Me Go, by Kazuo Ishiguro. Haunting in a way that will stay with you.

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update: job candidate called me four times in one day

Remember the letter-writer who had an internal job candidate call her four times in a single day and send her a passive-aggressive follow-up? (She also noted in the comments on the original post that the candidate’s language ‘”was very much in the tone of ‘why aren’t you doing your job and answering my calls?’” Here’s the update.

First of all, I didn’t end up telling my boss about how strongly this interviewee came across. I was going to wait until after the interview to see if the problem would sort itself out, but now I’m thinking that was a bad idea. She came in for the interview and went straight to my boss’s office instead of coming to mine to check in for her interview. It turns out she used to work in our department years ago (I’ve been here for three and had never heard of her), but she still seems to have a pretty good repartee with them. Maybe it’s a good thing I didn’t badmouth someone who they apparently love who used to work here.

So that was a few weeks ago. Apparently, they’re interested in calling her back for another interview because I was asked to schedule one over the phone. To give you the timeline here, I was asked to schedule a batch of them at 11:00 a.m. I did so but wasn’t able to forward them to the candidates before lunch. Around 10 minutes later, my boss began sending out emails to the candidates notifying them to look for the meeting request. 24 minutes later (I kid you not), the candidate emails me saying she should have received the meeting request and to please see the highlighted text in the email below from MY boss “for more insight” (candidate’s exact words).

First of all, 24 minutes. I’m in awe of how little respect she seems to be demonstrating for my time. Second of all, she’s carrying that same attitude she had when she messaged me earlier in the process. It seems like she’s at it again with the whole “you need to drop everything now and send me this because you were told to do it” attitude. Clearly, I’m going to send the meeting request to her ASAP because it was already on my list, but what gives?

Knowing that she’s apparently a strong candidate and has a good relationship with my boss, do you think there’s any language I could use to say “She really doesn’t seem to understand professional norms or have much respect for other people’s time and I wouldn’t be comfortable working with her.”? I’m at a complete loss.

Yes. Yes, absolutely, and you should because this may be information that your boss would be really interested in. I would be.

The fact that your boss knows her doesn’t make this irrelevant or not worth mentioning. For all we know, your boss might have noticed similarly pushy/rude behavior with her in the past and is hoping she’s changed, and would very much want to know that she hasn’t.

I’d say it this way: “I wanted to mention to you that Jane Warbleworth has been a little abrasive with me about scheduling interviews. The first time we were bringing her in, she called me four times in one morning and then IM’d me to say she couldn’t get ahold of me, and from her tone sounded like she thought I wasn’t doing my job, even though it had only been a few hours since I left her the message she was responding to. This time, she sent me a pretty aggressive email less than half an hour after you emailed her that she’d be getting a meeting request. I know you’ve worked with her before, so maybe you know that there’s nothing to worry about here — but I wanted to pass it on to you in case it’s the kind of thing you like to know.”

open thread — July 1-2, 2016

It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on anything work-related that you want to talk about. If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to talk to other readers.

* If you submitted a question to me recently, please don’t repost it here, as it may be in the to-be-answered queue :)

getting sick your first week at a new job, I won’t work in an open office, and more

It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go…

1. Getting sick your first week at a new job

I got sick during my first week of work. I was dragging on Friday, but attributed it to a long week of meeting new people and getting used to my routine. By Friday evening, I felt worse, and a trip to urgent care confirmed… I have strep throat.

Luckily for me, my doctor prescribed some great meds and I was able to rest up over the weekend. I was no longer contagious and was already feeling better by the end of the weekend.

But here’s my question — what the heck would I have done if this had not conveniently happened over the weekend? With strep, I know I’d have to call out sick, but what about something less contagious? And — either way — how do you go about taking a sick day (a day without pay, I’m assuming, since sick time hasn’t accrued) without it reflecting poorly on you as a new employee?

It’s certainly not ideal to be out sick your first week on the job, but sometimes this stuff happens — people get strep or break a leg or have horrible food poisoning. Even only halfway decent managers understand that this can happen, and that you can’t control the timing. The keys are to say that you’re mortified that it’s happening during your first week so that they know you’re not being cavalier about it, to make it clear it’s something like strep and not just the sniffles, and to make a real point of demonstrating your work ethic once you’re back. That last part is because the worry isn’t “how outrageous, she had strep her first week” but rather “is she someone who’s going to call out all the time?” since they don’t know you yet. You just need to counteract those worries once you’re back.

But really, you are human and you can’t schedule illness.

2. I turned down a job offer because I didn’t want to be in an open office

Late last year, I turned down a job for which I was well suited and which offered pay and benefits that were satisfactory, and I wonder if I made a mistake. There were a few reasons I declined, but the one that accounted for about 85% of my response was that the company has an open office floor plan. I *loathe* those, and I really felt I could not do my best work in such an environment. That sounds so petty, I know, but it really mattered to me, and still does.

My refusal was prompt, polite, and non-specific, so no worries on that score. However, I always hear that everything is negotiable, so I often wonder if I should have tried to negotiate that as well. At the time I turned down the job, I told myself the employer would never entertain such a request, but I can’t help but wonder if I miscalculated. So was I wrong then, or am I wrong now?

Ugh, I wouldn’t work in an open office plan either, so I’m right there with you in turning it down.

Whether you could have negotiated for your own office depends on how senior you are. If you aren’t especially senior, it’s unlikely, unless they really, really wanted to hire you (and were willing to probably cause unrest among others at your level). It’s also the kind of thing that you might negotiate but could end up changing after the fact anyway (“a new VP is starting and we can’t justify you having a private office when she doesn’t,” etc.).

I actually wish you had told them why you were turning down the offer though. It’s good for employers to hear that they’re losing candidates over this.

3. I’m painfully bored at work

I started at a new job a few months ago and was told that when I finish work, I should ask my supervisor for more work. When I message them about needing work, the response is, “I’ll come to your desk to give you something in a minute.” The problem is that “a minute” has ranged from 15 minutes to three hours. When it’s longer periods, I’ve sent reminders, but get more of the “in a minute” response.

I’ve run out of semi-productive things to do (reading training materials, cleaning out my inbox, etc.) so the waits are becoming painfully boring, and being in limbo is miserable itself. I dread finishing work now. Is there a way to approach my supervisor about this without seeming insubordinate or insulting? (I can’t imagine anyone wanting to be told that they keep people waiting for too long when they’re busy with supervisor duties.)

I’d ask if there are bigger or longer-term projects that you can work on during your downtime in order to keep busy. If that doesn’t work, then you might need to have a conversation with your manager at some point about what’s going on — is this is a temporary situation until she’s through a busy period and then can give you bigger chunks of work that don’t require you checking in with her constantly? It’s not unreasonable to say that you’re finding yourself spending hours with nothing to do and that you’d like to find ways to stay busier. (Also, read my advice in the second letter here to the intern with nothing to do, about proposing your own projects — that’s something you should try too.)

4. How much responsibility do I have for helping to hire my replacement?

My partner and I decided that we wanted to move cities, and my manager and HR said they would keep me on in a transitional period and I could work remotely while I looked for something new and they looked for my replacement. We set an end date to full-time employment three months in the future. Great! I’m leaving (it was time), but still have a paycheck and am also able to look for a new job without fear it will get back to them. Plus I can use them for references.

Fast-forward to today: I’ve been working remotely (going up to the office once a week) for six weeks now and the first round of interviews for my position are beginning to be planned. First I was asked to look through the resumes, which ended up taking hours (there were hundreds). Now I’m being asked to spend 30 minutes on phone interviews with each person who is even a potential possibility (maybe 10–12). Now I expect they’d want me to be there in-person for final round interviews.

Originally I thought it would be beneficial to me to help with the process to get an inside view of hiring — I got this job after being an intern for the company right out of school and never went through the traditional hiring process. But I’m trying to keep everyone happy by doing my regular work (I already have too much) along with writing documentation about processes and also wrap-up projects. I need to be looking for my new job and don’t have time to work more than 40 hours like I did in the past.

If this is determined to be a priority for my limited remaining time, of course I’ll help, but I wonder if this is normal. How much should an employee reasonably be expected to help with the hiring of a replacement? I don’t want to put my foot down only for my manager/HR to be disappointed in my when I was counting on their good recommendations.

It’s perfectly reasonable for them to ask for this kind of help in hiring your replacement, but it’s not reasonable for them to expect you to do it on top of an already full workload. I’m not even sure they do expect that though — they’re probably assuming that you’ll let them know what you need to back-burner in order to make room for this. And since you haven’t spoken up about that, they’re probably assuming you’re able to fit it all in reasonably comfortably.

So speak up! Say this: “To do phone interviews with 10-12 candidates will take X amount of time, which means I won’t be able to do Y and Z. Knowing that, do you still want me involved to this extent, or would it be better for me to keep focusing on Y and Z and have someone else do the phone interviews?” In other words, just tell them what the trade-offs are and let them decide how they want you to spend your remaining time — but you should not be assuming that you just need to work tons of hours to get everything done. (If it does turn out that they expect that, that would be unreasonable and you could explain you don’t have the time remaining — but I’d start from the assumption that you just need to speak up.)

5. Is there any room for negotiating a raise here?

For most of my career, I’ve worked at large professional services firms that have a system in place for annual reviews, raises, and bonuses. At my current company, around May/June, all the reviews from your various supervisors are gathered and your counselor presents your file to a review board. In June/July, you find out your rating, and in August one of the partners tells you your raise and bonus.

Is there any room for negotiation in this process? It seems that by the time my partner gives me my raise, everything has been calculated and calibrated. I know they use some formulas based on how the business unit did and my individual rating, but the formulas are not transparent. If there is room to negotiate, when would that be? For my part, I do my best to summarize my ratings and discuss my strengths and goals with my counselor before he submits it to the review board. But that focuses on my rating and not my actual raise and bonus.

You can certainly try it, and people probably do. In June — after the reviews are gathered but probably before any money decisions are made — I’d make a case to your manager for a raise, in the same way you would at any other company. Ask for a meeting and say, “I know raises and bonuses will be announced in August. Before decisions about those are made, I’d like to make a case for a raise of $X” — and then make your case. (It sounds like you have multiple managers, but assuming there’s one person who’s in charge of stuff like your professional development, that’s who I’d talk to.)

People often end up not negotiating because they don’t feel there’s ever a natural opening for it (both with job offers and with raises). You don’t need to wait for your employer to give you an opening — you can bring up the subject yourself, and you should here.