your email does not require a special font by Alison Green on November 29, 2012 If you have set up your email to use a special font when you send people emails, rather than just the normal plain text default, it is time to stop. The fake cursive font, the weird typewriter font, the colors — none of these are good, and they make you look out of touch with technology. The same goes for those fake stationery backgrounds that some people send emails on. Plain text, no fluffy features. Really. You may also like:how to take feedback gracefully, without getting defensivedo I really have to use formal openings and closings in every email?job application is fixated on high school academic performance { 290 comments }
LJL* November 29, 2012 at 11:50 am Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been preaching this for years!
Elizabeth* November 29, 2012 at 11:59 am I’m especially baffled by people who append the exact same quote to every email, no matter the content. I’m a teacher, and last year I got an email from a parent who was angry about their child’s report card. The body of the email itself was very harsh and contained thinly-veiled suggestions that I wasn’t a very good teacher. At the bottom, after the parent’s name, was an inspirational quote about bliss, living in the moment, and being at peace with the world.
Another Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 1:54 pm Ha! I’d be so tempted to reply with just that quote. Same font and everything.
Thursday's child* November 29, 2012 at 12:00 pm Wasn’t that a topic on a past post? Religious quotes on the email? Or maybe that is just my own personal peeve, cannot remember!
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm I think it was this time last year. About someone having Merry CHRISTmas in their sig and the capitalized CHRIST had religious meaning (aside from the normal holiday greeting.) Is that the one you’re thinking of?
Thursday's child* November 29, 2012 at 12:20 pm YES! Yay, so happy to know my mind is not completely blown away by .net trivia, frameworks, and factoids.
anon* November 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm I got a cold email from someone wanting to do business with me last week that included a religious quote. I did not reply, because if you have so little common sense, I can’t trust your judgement in other business dealings either. Ironically, it was a quote I actually really like – in my private, religious life, not in my workplace!
Anon* November 29, 2012 at 12:18 pm This a million times over but with every type of quote. Someone I work with has one reminding everyone about September 11th…. It’s good to remember things but goodness it’s depressing reading it every single time I get an email from that person.
Natalie* November 29, 2012 at 12:42 pm If this xkcd is to be believed, no one needs help remembering 9/11: http://xkcd.com/1140/
Anne* November 30, 2012 at 4:54 am I love that I’m not the only person who reads both AAM and xkcd. :)
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:23 pm I have a business contact that is always wishing me something “blessed” both verbally and in email. I know she means well, and she’s so nice and it works with the southern drawl…but I cringe a little bit because we’ve never discussed religion and it always strikes me as odd when people throw that out without knowing anything about the beliefs of the recipient. It doesn’t offend me as much as I just don’t think it’s the smartest thing to do. But I’ve been wished everything from a blessed Christmas to a blessed weekend to a blessed version upgrade. Yes. And it so wasn’t – that upgrade was a nightmare. Her blessing didn’t even work.
Tamara* November 29, 2012 at 12:28 pm Darn. I was hoping the blessed version upgrade worked – I was going to try it next time. That would have been awesome.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm If you find a blessing that works I will convert to whatever religion sponsors that.
Chinook* November 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm Just remember to put the burnt offering next to the server and not on it. Server fires are bad!
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 8:52 pm However, always remember that there are fundamental technical reasons why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain every now and then…. J. F. Woods
perrik* November 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm Our project manager has the “have a blessed day” in her .sig, as well as a fancy font and other fluffy elements. It’s a weird contrast to her all-business professional demeanor. It would annoy me more if she weren’t otherwise thoroughly awesome. There is no such thing as a blessed version upgrade. They are all cursed to the bottomless depths of despair and woe.
Ryan* November 29, 2012 at 12:41 pm I just did a version upgrade last night…it wasn’t good. Banks should not develop software.
Lils* November 29, 2012 at 1:08 pm Saying “have a blessed day” is a common Southern-ism, especially among African-Americans. It doesn’t mean anything more than “have a nice day.”
The IT Manager* November 29, 2012 at 1:20 pm I disagree. Whenever anyone says or signs their emails “have a blessed day” I get a feeling that they’re pushing their religion in my face. It’s minor and I avoid commenting on it, but it is not the same as “have a nice day” to me. IMO opinion it’s unprofessional. BTW: I am a southerner who has lived most of my life in different parts of the south. From my experience, this phrase is new but becoming more common.
Really?* November 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm I doubt they are pushing their religion on you. In fact, they are probably just wishing you the absolute best they can, by using a phrase that has deep meaning to them. You’re right, “a nice day” and “a blessed day” are not the same; to that person, “a blessed day” is most certainly better. Acknowledgement: I grew up in the South, and there are certainly people who ARE trying to push religion. I do agree that it is unprofessional, and salutations and valedictions should be kept brief & simple: “hello” “hi” “greetings” “thank you” “best” “sincerely” and not be followed by quotes.
jmkenrick* November 29, 2012 at 3:43 pm You’re right, “a nice day” and “a blessed day” are not the same; to that person, “a blessed day” is most certainly better To play devil’s advocate: just because something is nicer for you doesn’t necessarily mean it’s nicer for ME.
Emily* November 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm I think it’s a bit unfair to say they’re pushing religion in your face. In your face would be quoting the Bible or directly conversing about it, not a routine valediction that is vaguely only-sometimes non-denominationally religious. For some people “have a blessed day” might be religious but for many others it’s just a pleasantry common to their culture. Maybe it’s still unprofessional, but I wouldn’t class it with pushy proselytizing as being in-your-face religion.
Laura L* November 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm Interesting. The only person I’ve ever known who has used it was a white person from the Pacific Northwest! I wonder where she picked it up.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:31 am I can’t help be reminded of the rather unfriendly use of “bless his/her heart” here!
anon.* December 1, 2012 at 8:21 am Being ‘Blessed’ doesn’t apply to any particular religion. So, unless you are an atheist, why be bothered by it?
Min* December 1, 2012 at 8:26 am So, as an atheist, is it ok for me to be bothered by it? Why does anyone feel the need to put there religion out there in an inappropriate setting? It’s not like I make a habit of ending my emails with “most of the world is frighteningly delusional” so why do others feel like it’s ok for them to go around blessing everybody?
Jamie* December 1, 2012 at 10:45 am “most of the world is frighteningly delusional” I am not an atheist, but I love this quote. I think this sentiment works universally.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 12:23 pm Wait.. people actually put quotes in their work/professional emails? My work email signature is simply my name, position, my phone number and a link to my company’s website. I thought quotes were a big no-no in the professional world?
Sharon* November 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm I have one coworker at the management level who inserts cutesy little pretend quotes in his name at the bottom of each email. He changes them on every email depending on the subject. So he’ll sign off with something like Mike “need more information” man It’s hard to take him seriously.
moss* November 29, 2012 at 12:41 pm Oh, that’s kind of funny actually. Do you reply to him by addressing him that way? Dear “Need More”:
fposte* November 29, 2012 at 3:56 pm Is he old enough to have been on Usenet? That was actually a thing in some corners there–usually known as the “internym.”
Mishsmom* November 29, 2012 at 7:07 pm that reminds me of rob schneider’s 90’s snl skits…the robster…the rob-man… ;0-)
Heather* November 30, 2012 at 10:04 am Ha! I had a project with an account manager whose signature was Joe “FIRED UP” Schmoe with the “fired up part” in bolded red. I always felt like he had attended one too many Tony Robbins seminars.
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm Sad but true. In my organization there are many, many people who love the email sig quote, and a lot of them are rather controversial. It is definitely unprofessional.
Vicki* November 29, 2012 at 9:31 pm At my last job, I had a program that pulled a quote from a file and inserted it into every message I sent. My job was writer / content manager / support. The quotes were all job related — about writing, editing, quality, productivity… No one ever complained (privately or publicly) and several people asked me where I got my collection, if they could have a copy, and what program I used to insert them into the email. It was a tech company and other people I worked with also used quotes that coud be appreciated by techies in general. I think the question of whether or not to put quotes in your work/professional email really depends on the type of job, the type of quote, and the company culture. > I thought quotes were a big no-no in the professional world? Not the world I work in. But the Silicon Valley technical world is, likely very different from, e.g., the Legal world or High Finance world. :-)
Megan* December 1, 2012 at 1:07 pm Putting a link to your company’s website seems equally out-of-touch when your professional email ends in @companyswebsite – seems really redundant. Does this bother anyone else? (Not quite as bad as people who include their email address in their email signature.)
Lala* December 2, 2012 at 6:08 pm Putting in the link makes it easier to click. Email addresses in the signature makes it possible for people who may have been forwarded your email to contact you. Some mails strip the email address of previous senders. My corporate email signature template has this but I don’t insert it. Ha
Ellie H.* November 29, 2012 at 2:34 pm A girl I went to college with had that variously attributed quotation “I have made this email longer, because I have not had time to make it shorter” (she attributed it to Blaise Pascal) in her email signature. I disapprove of quotation signatures in general, but that made me smile every time I saw it.
lsay* November 29, 2012 at 6:49 pm Can we get rid of the work-approved snippets too? I work for a cultural organization and we’re supposed to have a PR-approved quote or blurb at the bottom of our emails about the latest show/exhibit and I really, really, really hate it.
JT* November 30, 2012 at 10:49 pm You hate it, but the question is, does it help your organization? If it does, that’s a good thing.
anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 9:34 pm snort. I had a client who was incredibly bad at communication or getting me ANYTHING I needed in a timely fashion. And he had as his email signature some statement about striving to work efficiently and be the best one could be at one’s job…
Ellie H.* November 29, 2012 at 11:52 am Here, if you get an email from someone who uses a fake stationery background, it puts it on the whole email chain and I don’t know how to remove it. It is weird to write email about, like, NIH grant co-sponsorship on top of someone else’s yellow pastel background with pink and blue sparkly dots (100% true story). Even some of my colleagues who are otherwise incredibly professional have different fonts and colors in their signatures, especially the cursive-y ones. My signature is in 10pt as opposed to 11pt font.
Janet* November 29, 2012 at 12:02 pm Yes, and I use an archaic e-mail system at work and I don’t have a lot of space. Images and fancy background take up space and fill my inbox pretty fast. No fake stationary and it’s really not necessary to add your company’s logo as an attachment. If I want to see their logo, I’ll go to the website.
Blinx* November 29, 2012 at 12:39 pm These fake-attachment files used to bug me no end! You see the little paperclip next to the email in your inbox and think, finally they sent me that PDF I requested. Nope. Just another logo. We also had very limited email space at my old job and cleaning out email was a constant chore.
Anne* November 30, 2012 at 5:06 am This. This. Thisthisthis. Yes. “Oh thank the gods, he’s finally gotten back to me with the signed renewal quote a week after the deadline – oh. Nope.”
BW* November 29, 2012 at 12:42 pm Some companies require employees to use a standard signature that includes the logo, and sometimes *cringe* whatever the company slogan is.
KellyK* November 29, 2012 at 12:54 pm Yeah, we have a standard signature. Fortunately the logo is optional. Nothing against our logo, I’m just not a fan of unnecessary attachments or signatures that are longer than the message.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:33 am Oh, I freakin’ hate those attached sig file things. Luckily my mail program allows me to view them without opening them, but they are annoying.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 12:04 pm You *can* edit out the html if you view the source (with most systems), although it’s a pain. I have a client who uses that cursive signature, and it makes his text teensy tiny, about 4pt. I have to copy and paste into a browser to read it. But honestly, can there ever be too many sparkles? And rainbows?
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:15 pm But honestly, can there ever be too many sparkles? And rainbows? Unfortunately for most people, yes. If left to my own devices my home and office would look as if it were decorated by an 8 year old girl – but even I have to temper it because conducting an audit using a Lisa Frank notebook would erode my authority. The fact that I wear my ID on a pink Hello Kitty lanyard is ostensibly so I appear fun and approachable…a subtle touch of whimsy. In reality it’s probably why I’m not more successful.
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm I would wear a lanyard or use a notebook with the symbol of the Galactic Empire. That might do the trick.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm So, it is okay that I named my new server “Goldberry” and am seriously considering naming the next one “TheEye”? Thank Elbereth.
Kelly L.* November 29, 2012 at 6:05 pm I name all my computers after goddesses of the underworld. The one I had the longest, Persephone, had a whole naming scheme where the various drives were named after rivers in the underworld, like Cocytus and Phlegethon, and I was mad that the computer wouldn’t let me name the trash Lethe.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 8:55 pm I went through a phase of naming programs after valkyries. Then Fates and Norns.
LJL* November 30, 2012 at 10:07 am I thought all server admins did this? I was always suspicious of servers named after the Three Stooges, and, yes, in a production environment.
Jamie* November 30, 2012 at 10:13 am I’m a little disheartened by all of this. I thought everyone knew servers should be named after members of Van Halen.
class factotum* December 1, 2012 at 5:46 am I was the business liaison on a project to develop a desktop application making all sales data from the factories – well, anyhow. I named it “Picasso,” although I tried to get “Ceres” or “Athena” through. I was told nobody would know who the Greek goddesses were, which made me wonder if anyone I’d worked with had been through 8th grade. But then, I did work with people who did not know how to forward their phone calls to voicemail, so it was not the best of the best. After a year, Legal put the kibosh on “Picasso.” I was already out of the department, so had no power. They renamed the database “Powercube.” It’s been over eight years and I am still sad that they gave it such a pathetic name.
Joe* January 4, 2013 at 11:25 am At my current job, the naming scheme for servers, databases, projects, and other things was “trees”, with things like “redwood”, “oak”, “poplar”, etc. So when I set up my dev workstation, I named it “yggdrasil”. Sadly, nobody had any idea what the heck that was.
perrik* November 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm If I was approached by an auditor wearing a Hello Kitty lanyard, I’d be terrified. Fear the kawaii! (which is odd because I’m half-Japanese and therefore genetically susceptible to The Cute)
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:35 am No kidding. It’s like the wear-pink-and-be-known-as-Becky higher-level Goth thing.
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 2:28 pm Yes. God yes there can be too many sparkles, too many smilies, and too much stuff going on in your email. I especially hate seeing people who use brightly colored bold font for everything – these are the people who inevitably use Comic Sans. For me, that is the equivalent of scribbling your message in crayon on the back of your Dora the Explorer coloring pages. I always wonder if they also put little hearts over their i’s if they have to write things in longhand.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 5:31 pm For me, that is the equivalent of scribbling your message in crayon on the back of your Dora the Explorer coloring pages. I see you’ve found the first draft of my QC manual.
kristinyc* November 29, 2012 at 5:59 pm Bahahahaah! FWIW, I think some workplaces could use a little more Lisa Frank.
Blinx* November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm One colleague always had a lavender pattern in the back of her emails. If she could, I think it would be scented and play Yanni when you opened it. Some day, technology will catch up with her dreams!
Elle Woods* November 29, 2012 at 1:07 pm But it’s scented! I think it gives it a little something extra, don’t you think?
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 1:09 pm People complain about being assaulted by co-workers wearing perfume – can you imagine if they were able to stink bomb you with it in your own office?!
Ask a Manager* Post authorNovember 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm I have dreamt of being able to send smells to other people ever since I was a kid. The other day I baked banana bread and really wanted to text the smell to someone.
books* November 30, 2012 at 1:06 pm IIRC, according to Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me, this is actually a thing in Japan. (Of course.)
JT* November 30, 2012 at 10:51 pm I’ve often thought about smell-o-vision. Like television, but smelly.
Julie* November 29, 2012 at 12:13 pm You could try setting the email to plain text instead of HTML. You’ll lose some formatting, but you’ll also lose the weird background.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 8:58 pm Better yet, have your filters send anything with an HTML attachment straight to the bit bucket.
BW* November 29, 2012 at 12:43 pm Ugh the cursive-y font in the signature line irks me! Really, do you think this looks like you signed this email? Really? Why? WHY????!! Oh just make it stop!
Andrea* November 30, 2012 at 11:11 am If you change your reply or forward email to plain text, it’ll get rid of the fake stationary. (In Outlook 2007 and 2010, that’s in the ribbon tab Format Text.)
Elizabeth* November 29, 2012 at 11:54 am Also, depending on the program that your recipient is using to read your email, your special font or background could possibly not be visible or be rendered as a few lines of code appended to your message. While many modern email clients support fonts, not all do.
KV* November 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm I think it’s not just the email client that has to support the weird fonts, but also that font needs to be installed on the recipient’s computer. Of course, even if the font is not available on the computer, most email programs will display the text in the default font.
LT* November 29, 2012 at 11:57 am Agreed! It all screams “I just learned how to use a computer, look at what I can do!!”
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:05 pm :::small voice::: Sometimes it just means I prefer blue to black – and it is a nice visual in long email threads. I swear I didn’t just learn how to use a computer. I’ve been computing for weeks now! :)
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm As in pens, I don’t think there’s a problem using a dark blue font color instead of black. I also don’t personally mind other very dark colors, like a very deep green or a very deep burgundy. Basically, if it’s going to look black and not grey if I have to print the e-mail to my black and white printer, then I’m not bothered.
Natalie* November 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm Blue or black seems fine to me, or using a brighter but still legible color when replying inline, to differentiate your words from theirs.
AMG* November 29, 2012 at 4:32 pm I use a dark blue but otherwise normal font too. It’s also easier on the eyes.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:38 am I don’t mind dark colored writing on a functional level, but it does call attention to itself. (I’m sensitive to color gradations, so it would be impossible for me to not notice.)
Anonymous* November 30, 2012 at 7:08 pm To me all of this silly black on white nowadays that is used to pretend a screen was like paper which it is not feels so bright as if it was almost hurting my eyes. It felt much better when it was white on black at the screen in the olden days as they still knew black was free and white cost electricity, same as noone would print a whole piece of paper black leaving a few white gaps where letters are.
Rana* December 1, 2012 at 12:28 am If you have a Mac, you might look into getting Flux. It changes the color tone of your screen to match the surrounding lighting, and it makes it a lot easier on the eyes.
Kim* November 29, 2012 at 12:11 pm Nope, you can’t use Comic Sans because you’re not a horrible person. :) Down with Comic Sans! And Papyrus.
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 12:13 pm Gah! Yes!! One of the people I support regularly emails in bright blue, 14 pt Comic Sans. She writes really long, confusing emails with roudabout questions and often doesn’t make sense. I have to paste them into a plain text file just to read them, before trying to decode her nonsense.
Kelly L.* November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm On a related topic, I want to declare a moratorium on using Comic Sans for serious and/or sad topics. I lost a pet this year and you’d be surprised how many pet-grief websites are coded in effing Comic Sans.
Anonymous* November 30, 2012 at 8:24 pm The cat sweatshirt people are usually fond of comic sans. And listing the birth and death dates of every pet they ever owned – ie, Fluffy 1988 – 1994.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:39 am Oh, geez. The only way that could be worse is if it were on a yellow background and there was blinky text involved.
jill* November 29, 2012 at 12:31 pm What is WITH Comic Sans though? My mom uses it exclusively for all communications, and has set it as the default font on her home computer (so the text in the task bar, for example, is Comic Sans). That is effort! What about this font appeals so deeply to people?
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm It’s cute. I don’t use it except when adding text boxes to photoshopped pics of cats to send to my daughter (don’t judge me) but it is cute. My grownup font is Calibri, but I am also partial to Arial. I hate times new roman…it’s so stern.
KayDay* November 29, 2012 at 12:58 pm “I don’t use it except when adding text boxes to photoshopped pics of cats to send to my daughter (don’t judge me) but it is cute.” That is awesome.
AMG* November 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm I love Garamond. I do put everything in Garamond and will convert things I am working on to Garamond. I swear it’s easier for me to read and process.
Ariancita* November 29, 2012 at 5:57 pm Garamond is a very classic old printers font used in lots of books–it’s very beautiful and elegant. My favorite.
Victoria* November 29, 2012 at 12:34 pm And, conversely, why does it inspire so much hatred? Seriously, it’s just a font.
Victoria* November 29, 2012 at 12:45 pm I’m not sure if you’re saying that I’m self-righteous, or if comic-sans haters are self-righteous. If it’s me, then I apologize – didn’t mean to be snotty. I just truly don’t understand the (rather large) anti-Comic Sans movement. (I’m lazy, so I use Arial for anything on a screen and Times New Roman for anything printed. Oh, and I think my resume is Garamond.)
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 12:57 pm I can’t speak for all Comic Sans-haters, but for me, the font is ugly and hard to read, no matter the size or color, which makes reading and comprehending long bodies of text difficult. And I will readily admit I am a snob, not just about fonts, but a lot of things. Beer. Star Wars. Anime. The fact that I am a snob.
Ask a Manager* Post authorNovember 29, 2012 at 12:59 pm Here’s a whole post on Comic Sans if you’re interested: https://www.askamanager.org/2009/08/does-font-on-your-resume-matter-what-if.html
KellyK* November 29, 2012 at 1:05 pm I have an unreasonable love of Garamond. Don’t know why, but it makes me happy to see it.
Kelly L.* November 29, 2012 at 1:14 pm Me too. And in college I liked Palatino because it was just enough bigger than Times New Roman that it sometimes bumped a slightly short paper up to the required page count while remaining 12pt.
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 5:38 pm I actually like Garamond and Book Antiqua myself, as well as Palatino. I am a serif font sort of person, and I like that they’re just different enough to differentiate from Times, but not over the top. I have recently begun using Georgia a bit more. While it’s not a personal favorite, I discovered it in a blog Alison linked me to, and the typography discussion of the drop on the descender fascinated me. I’m using it more and it’s growing on me. (Although I must admit part of me prefers things lining up as I’ve become accustomed to seeing them.)
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:41 am Palatino is my default font for everything. What’s funny about the “font games” students play (myself included) is that everyone assumes it’s invisible to the professor. Guess what: we did it as undergrads too, so we know exactly what’s going on. ;)
jill* November 29, 2012 at 1:24 pm No no! I’m so sorry! I meant that any objection I have (and I think most kneejerk haters of Comic Sans) is pretty heavily based in self-righteousness and general snobbery. Sorry about that!
Megan* November 29, 2012 at 2:03 pm I’m pretty sure jill was saying that comic-sans haters are self-righteous. I’m not proud, but I’ll admit there’s a bit of that flavor on most of my font-hating thoughts. That’s just how I read it, Victoria. I think your comment was fine.
Esra* November 29, 2012 at 1:23 pm Hey, for some of us, it’s our job to be font snobs! Seriously, colour, fonts, design, it all has an impact on how you and the content you are presenting is perceived. It’s important in business and can be make-or-break in job hunting.
Ariancita* November 29, 2012 at 5:59 pm Yes! I have a deep love for typography–a left over from my graphic design days. I still follow typography blogs for the pure joy of it.
Kelly L.* November 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm It’s a font for cute, lighthearted things, which means it probably won’t do much for, say, a business correspondence or a scholarly article. It’s fine for its intended purpose.
Louis* November 29, 2012 at 4:22 pm My tought exactly. Comic sans is great for my 6yo when he’s writing a letter to Santa on the computer… it’s not so great when my 40 yo coworker uses it in a business setting.
perrik* November 29, 2012 at 12:50 pm Think of fonts like clothing. For work purposes, you can play it safe with the conservative navy blue suit (Times New Roman) or a gray wool shift dress paired with a navy blazer (Helvetica). If you’re in DC, you might default to the blue button-down shirt with khakis (Calibri). Book Antiqua is a classic suit worn with vintage jewelry. Comic Sans is a big fluffy pink sweatshirt with a picture of two kittens in a basket.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:53 pm This may be my favorite post I’ve ever read. Metaphors. Kittens. Pink. Calibri. It has it all.
Karyn* November 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm I’m going to copy/paste this to IT Boyfriend who has an unnatural hatred of the ability users have to choose fonts in their emails… this is my favorite metaphor of all time.
Victoria* November 29, 2012 at 1:10 pm Yes, I understand fonts as branding. It’s not a business font. Some people use it in business. It doesn’t look professional, and it makes them look out-of-touch. That’s all true, and I get that. What I don’t get is why thousands (millions?) of people are obsessed with hating Comic Sans specifically: http://bancomicsans.com/
Ask a Manager* Post authorNovember 29, 2012 at 1:44 pm I think because it’s so horrifically juvenile and unprofessional looking, and yet businesses and employees still continue to use it in professional contexts, and it baffles people.
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 5:42 pm And because people who use it think they are being all whimsical and creative, when they are mainly just looking the proverbial fool in a world of basic serif and san serif fonts. I mean, it may be a bit harsh to say it, but when I’m reading an email chain and I see your purple Comic Sans, I wonder how seriously I can take you. (I will also add the person who types everything in Lucida Calligraphy bugs the ever loving you know out of me too. It takes twice as long to read her emails.)
Megan* November 29, 2012 at 2:05 pm Yes yes yes! Love it! Helvetica is one of my favorites, and I love your description of it. Agree with all that this is perfect.
Ellie H.* November 29, 2012 at 2:46 pm I feel compelled to share that I have an actual cat sweatshirt (it’s not pink though) and I wear it all the time. Just not to work. It’s pretty much my favorite garment.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 3:58 pm I have to confess my favorite font of all time is “Ebola”, but that has more to do with my admiration of emerging infectious diseases than anything else.
Heather* November 30, 2012 at 10:10 am Would it be an acceptable exception to the anti-signature-quote movement to add this to the bottom of every email I send from now until the day I die? :) You nailed it!
Anon* November 29, 2012 at 1:46 pm A stellar interpretation of Comic Sans: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/im-comic-sans-asshole
KarenT* November 29, 2012 at 2:44 pm Haha I was just going to post this. I especially support this article’s view in Helvetica.
FreeThinkerTX* November 29, 2012 at 8:39 pm That was awesome! Thank you for the nerdiest laugh I’ve had in a few days. (Even though I sit squarely in the Comic Sans Hater camp).
JT* November 30, 2012 at 10:54 pm Check this out – Comic Sans on an envelope I got from a design school: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/323923_3754836787243_729825297_o.jpg W T F
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:45 am We did our wedding invitations in Papyrus. It wasn’t until I’d sent them all out that I learned that some people view it as only slightly less awful than Comic Sans. *small voice* I still like it, though.
Heather* November 30, 2012 at 10:13 am I am OK with Papyrus for wedding invitations, if the opinion of a total stranger on the internet makes you feel any better ;)
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 2:29 pm Kim for President! That’s the best platform I’ve heard since “the rent is too damn high.”
Anne* November 30, 2012 at 5:15 am I agree that it is an unprofessional style, but there has been some evidence to suggest that Comic Sans is easier to read for dyslexic people. There are other fonts which have similar effects, but they’re harder to access and use. Comic Sans is available from install on most operating systems and email clients. My office is only 9 people, and I’ve had at LEAST two co-workers with dyslexia. So I wouldn’t be surprised if some offices used it regularly to try and help with this issue.
Min* November 30, 2012 at 6:35 pm There is a free open-source font specifically designed for dyslexics available at http://dyslexicfonts.com/ . As someone without this problem, I find it difficult to read, but since I’m not the target audience, who am I to judge? :)
Abelardo Gonzalez* December 1, 2012 at 8:28 am I cannot tell you how many emails I get from non-dyslexics telling me I’m doing it wrong. :P Thank you for not judging. :)
Min* December 1, 2012 at 10:45 am Non-dyslexics criticizing the effectiveness of your font? That’s just ridiculous!
Abelardo Gonzalez* December 1, 2012 at 1:47 pm Yea. They can’t… wait for it… wait for it… read it. >_<
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 4:59 pm See, I thought Comic Sans was back in again, especially among the more cutting edge ironic hipsters. At least here where I work. But as always with my crew, it’s black all the way. No lavender.
books* November 30, 2012 at 1:08 pm I want comic sans to become sarcasm font. And then every time someone uses comic sans intentionally, we’ll think they’re being sarcastic. The problem with this – most of my emails would be in comic sans.
Jen* November 29, 2012 at 12:02 pm I disagree about the font, as long as it is a standard font. I love my Book Antiqua font in my email. It’s different but not weird or hard to read. Stationery and silly quotes are horrible, yet they are encouraged in my organization.
Eric* November 29, 2012 at 12:07 pm My company encouraged people to add a signature reminding others that if they print the e-mail they will be killing trees. I refused.
moe* November 29, 2012 at 12:16 pm My old company did that. The result was that long email chains would still get printed out, but would be longer than before because of all the please-don’t-print-me messages.
KayDay* November 29, 2012 at 12:20 pm Bah, I hate those, especially when you have a lot of short exchanges and every other line is don’t kill trees don’t kill tress don’t kill trees. At least it’s easier to say no to the line about killing trees without getting in trouble. The long legal disclaimers are even more annoying, and I’m assuming you can’t just say “no” to those.
perrik* November 29, 2012 at 12:38 pm “Bah, I hate those, especially when you have a lot of short exchanges and every other line is don’t kill trees don’t kill tress don’t kill trees.” Very annoying. Always makes me want to go outside with a chainsaw.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm Hee. Those ‘don’t print and save a tree’ notices inspire so much rage in almost everyone who comments about them. They inspire anger even in people who have a pretty serious commitment to sustainability. It’s a strange phenomenon. I think people just resent being told what to do.
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 1:30 pm It’s true, though. I would genuinely like to know if, for all of those “save a tree” blurbs, even one person who would have otherwise printed it chose not to. It’s a carpet bomb. The people who already make the effort to conserve paper get a condescending “reminder” that they didn’t need. The people who don’t care get to roll their eyes at the holier-than-thou and then cackle when the blurb ends up causing the print job to be two pages instead of one.
Emily* November 29, 2012 at 4:04 pm Yeah, I always wonder, who are these people who were all set to print out that email until they read the post-sig and thought, “You know what, I actually have no need whatsoever to print this!” Maybe in the 90s people were still compulsively printing all electronic correspondence and filing it away because that was The Way Communication Is Done, but we’ve been doing things electronically long enough, and printers are so nightmarish and universally hated by all computer users, that I’m reasonably certain that already nobody is printing anything unless they actually have to.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 4:17 pm Yeah, I always wonder, who are these people who were all set to print out that email until they read the post-sig and thought, “You know what, I actually have no need whatsoever to print this!” These are the same people who smoke for 40 years, but one day read on the side of the box that there are health concerns associated with this activity, facepalm, and never smoke again. In other words, they are imaginary people. and printers are so nightmarish and universally hated Amen
Henning Makholm* November 29, 2012 at 4:09 pm Forget sustainability here. Trees are a renewable resource. They are grown by professional foresters explicitly in order to be harvested, whether for timber or for pulp, and the first thing the forester does after harvesting his trees is the plant new ones so he will still have a source of income 20 or 50 years from now. It’s a trade that is intimately familiar with long planning horizons. And anyway, the alternative would be to leave your tracts of prime forest land lying around producing nothing, and where’s the fun or profit in that? You don’t see any exhortions to eat less bread and save a wheat plant, do you? Or eat less pork and save a pig? Some kinds of exotic wood come from wild-growing trees in pristine forests, felled by indiscriminate robber-baron types who are perfectly alright with leaving a dead dustbowl behind. (Generally in developing countries, because industrialized ones tends to have regulations about that). However, that kind of stuff isn’t driven by demand for wood pulp to make paper. Oh, some non-valuable trees will fall prey to the chainsaw when you liquidate an acre of rainforest, and they may well end up pulped, but that’s just getting rid of waste product. Where the money is is in decorative wood for flooring, furniture and so forth — not paper.
Elizabeth West* November 29, 2012 at 4:31 pm My boss used to say “Trees are a renewable resource” when I would tell him how much money we were spending on paper. Then he would call a meeting and complain we were spending too much money. *facepalm* Not a digital guy.
Henning Makholm* November 29, 2012 at 4:35 pm Oh, I’m cool with using less paper in order to save money. Just don’t think trees (or Nature, or Our Planet, or The Environment or whatever) will thank you for it.
class factotum* December 1, 2012 at 5:52 am Yes! Trees are a CROP! We grow them to use, just like we grow coffee beans, chocolate, and grapes. Should people drink less wine just to save the vines?
Anonymous* December 1, 2012 at 3:41 pm Corks for wine bottles are even funnier – a natural cork is far more environmentally friendly than a synthetic one (one could, of course, debate the merits of screw caps over either).
Anonymous* December 2, 2012 at 6:42 am I heared there are only a few of those cork trees in a small area of the world and they take ages until it can be harvested, which gets a problem as the need grows much faster than the supply.
Twentymilehike* November 29, 2012 at 3:43 pm It’s reminds me of a website I encountered a while back. I wish for the life of me that I could remember what it was … But basically it was an organization dedicated to educating people about the paper making process. Their stance, if I recall correctly, was that paper is made from trees specifically farmed to make paper. When we use less paper, the farmers that own the land don’t make as much money, therefore they end up selling the land to be used to build things in instead of planting trees. So in turn we were actually doing the opposite of saving trees by NOT printing.
perrik* November 29, 2012 at 9:00 pm And as for all things which need clarity in these troubled times, there’s a Rifftrax to help. http://www.rifftrax.com/shorts/paper-and-i (trust me, this is one weird, twisted… er, educational and helpful short film)
BW* November 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm The legal disclaimers are added after the fact by the server before it goes out. I am always a bit taken aback when I get a reply back with my email quoted and there’s this legalese novel at the bottom of it that I didn’t put there.
Liz in a Library* November 29, 2012 at 5:28 pm Yes! Hate this. Our legalese add-on is 278 words. 278 words!
Natalie* November 29, 2012 at 12:49 pm Argh, the legal notices. We correspond a lot with attorneys and some of my former co-workers would always keep the page/s of repeated legal disclaimers. I must have recycled an entire ream of paper full of legal disclaimers when I first started.
moss* November 29, 2012 at 12:44 pm I refused too!!! We have mandated signatures but I took that part out. I will print if I g****m want to.
Ellie H.* November 29, 2012 at 2:49 pm That is the worst. I rarely print email but find it rage-inspiringly obnoxious. It’s so idiotic because anybody who legit needs to print out an email will not and should not be deterred by the message, and will find it annoying, and it won’t even register kind of person who blindly prints out unnecessary items. It does nothing but make the person with that signature look smug and self-righteous.
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 12:15 pm My organization encourages us to use an image of our business cards as the signature. I HATE IT.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:19 pm Really? I had that at a place I worked and I thought it looked so cool. I wanted to do that here, but too many of the people we send to don’t like the jpg sig attachments so went with text. I love that look, though.
Janet* November 29, 2012 at 12:32 pm I also like the way it looks but it hogs up so much space in my inbox. We work with a company that does this so I get a lot of e-mails with scanned business card image attachment signatures. It just quadruples the size of the e-mail.
KayDay* November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm I did this before we switched to google enterprise where I don’t have so much flexibility in the signature (and I realized how annoying the constant jpeg attachments were). It wasn’t a photo of the entire business card, but a text recreation of it, with an image of the logo–so even if people didn’t get the image they would have the signature info. It looked nice, but I now get annoyed when I see all those attachments listed on my emails.
moss* November 29, 2012 at 12:45 pm i block images on everything I can. I want plain text in people’s emails.
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 1:00 pm I guess it depends on how your business cards look. Ours are overly cluttered with too much information and our organization’s ugly color scheme. Also, there is the jpg issue. I have seen people successfully replicate a nice business card as an email sig without the use of images.
ExceptionToTheRule* November 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm Oh God, they want us to do that too. Fortunately for me, my business cards are so outdated, they’re from 3 promotions ago and have the wrong phone number on them. If anyone asks I say I’ll do it when someone approves me for new business cards – which will never happen.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:30 pm My sig tag is outdated from one promotion ago…I was trying to use that as incentive to go live with the new sig tag software I bought to standardize everyone. Yep, one of these days I’m totally going to do that…
Elizabeth West* November 29, 2012 at 4:34 pm I hate that too, because if I have to copy it and paste it into a database or a mail merge, I can’t. Because it’s a picture and not text.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:47 am Personally, I’d rather just have clickable and cut-and-paste-able links. If the information is in a jpg or other image file, it’s a royal pain in the butt to use.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:48 am Or what Elizabeth said! (Sorry, didn’t scroll down enough first. *embarrassed*)
Sabrina* November 29, 2012 at 12:17 pm At my job emails that are sent to our production inbox get ripped into an imaging system. And all those fancy backgrounds, social media icons, company logos, etc, get separated out as attachments that I have to mark as irrelevant to the document. One or two is annoying. Ten is completely overboard. And I hate, hate, hate, HATE VCF file attachments. HATE.
Twentymilehike* November 29, 2012 at 3:47 pm That. And the stupid QR codes that my boss made is put on EVERYTHING. Everyone tells me they never scan them. They just ask me what they say so they don’t have to. My boss is the king of making things overly complicated with technology that’s supposed to “make life easier.” Pfft.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:51 am QR codes are one of my on-going aggravations. Nine times out of ten, a simple URL will do the trick just as well. The only times those stupid codes make sense is when you anticipate the vast majority of people seeing it will be needing the information while out and about, and that the only way they can get it is through their smart phones (and that they are likely to have smart phones). So they are stupid on business cards, and even stupider in an email.
JT* November 30, 2012 at 11:04 pm I still don’t understand your hate on QR codes. Are you actually seeing QR codes *instead* of the info in text on business cards? That’s unwise, but I haven’t seen that. I’ve seen it in addition to the info.
Rana* December 1, 2012 at 12:33 am I see it in a lot of catalogs or newsletters, where they put up the code with a note to use it to view more information, but provide no URL. But basically, I don’t understand why, if you have the card, you need (or would want) to take a picture of it and scan it right then. Why not take it home and type in the URL when you are in a position to appreciate it? Part of this may be that I’m a person who doesn’t have a smartphone, and so the idea of scanning random things with one doesn’t occur to me. So I get the value of having them up, say, outside a theater so that people can sign up for movie times using one, but on a business card? Which is small and pocket-sized so you can take it with you?
Jamie* December 1, 2012 at 10:42 am I just noticed one of these today on a box of tampons. So this is why people bring their phones into the bathroom.
JT* December 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm QR codes on business cards can have full contact info and not just go to a website (either via a vCard at a URL or having the vCard embedded in the code itself – which is how I do it.) So scan it and the phone prompts to save full contact info. Three or five keystrokes instead of, say, 60 and someone’s who contact info is in your phone. With far less chance of error than typing. And it’s not “scanning random things” – it’s someone handing you a card and telling you “Oh, my info’s in the code in the back too” which offers you value if you want to save that info. If you don’t want to store the person’t info, you don’t – but the QR code it not making it harder either way. I don’t have a smartphone either, but I’ve watched people use them, and when done right QR codes can make things easier.
JT* December 1, 2012 at 4:56 pm Rana – here is one of my business cards http://www.johntomlinson.com/images/synergoscards2012.jpg Scanning the code at the back loads the my name and contact info into the phone (generally with an “OK” button for the user to confirm that). Compare that to typing the same info. If someone doesn’t have a smart phone, they still have my info on the card. The main downside is a tiny bit more cost printing the card double-sided, though in our case the off-white color is ink, not the paper, so we were printing on both sides anyway.
KV* November 29, 2012 at 12:20 pm Agree ! Weird fonts / signatures ==> doesn’t look professional. I’ve also seen animated gif smileys in work emails, where a simple :) might convey the message :) And, I’ve also seen a fair amount of casual chat-room acronyms sprinkled in emails — e.g. LOL, ROTFL, TTYL, etc.
Not So NewReader* November 29, 2012 at 12:25 pm People actually have time for all that stuff? (LOL) Depending on how a person connects to the internet the “stationery” can make it take longer for the email to load on screen. In the few computer classes I have had the profs said the same thing over and over “Think about the viewer, think about what it is like on their end.” This covers anything that takes too long to load or is decorated to the point of distraction.
fishy* November 29, 2012 at 2:34 pm Our IT department is notorious for the background stationery. The worst offense is when they send out an email saying they will not being doing updates this weekend because it’s on the background stationery and takes minutes to open in our antiquated Outlook software.
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 12:25 pm Some kinds of e-mail attachments will also trigger some spam filters, so just for that reason alone it’s a good idea to keep extraneous cosmetic stuff out of your e-mails.
Juana* November 29, 2012 at 12:26 pm You also lose all credibility if your signature contains happy cartoon flowers captioned “have a nice day.”
Blinx* November 29, 2012 at 12:33 pm And please, learn how to use the shift key, it’s really not that difficult. Professional emails sent in all lower case, including their name, look like they were sent by a third grader.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 12:38 pm Opposite problem for me. Because our ERP requires all uppercase that’s an excuse for a few to SEND ALL EMAILS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE THE CAPS LOCK ON BECAUSE I WAS IN THE ERP. Last I checked it takes exactly one tap of the caps lock to unlock it. Seems like that’s worth the effort to avoid screaming at everyone in their inbox all day. Oh and if you hate spellcheck and rail against it like it’s from the bowels of hell itself, then either get a job where you’re not emailing customers or learn to freaking spell. Because I don’t like getting complaints from your boss that I should config Outlook to not allow you to turn off spell check. Seriously. / rant
moss* November 29, 2012 at 12:46 pm IF YOU GET A REQUEST IN CAPS YOU MIGHT PAY MORE ATTENTION AND WE NEED OUR NEW WIDGETS IMMEDIATELY.
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 12:58 pm But when I get an e-mail in all caps I think I’m being yelled at so I run to the washroom to hide until it blows over!
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm You know what’s funny? One of the people who does it is a very nice, but quite and soft spoken person. I’m not sure he would yell if he were on fire – but his emails are very emphatic.
AMG* November 29, 2012 at 4:44 pm OK, THANKS!!!!!! or anything similar makes me want to find that person and smack them with thier own keyboard.
Thomas* November 29, 2012 at 1:32 pm There are certain teams at the company I work for that use all caps all the time. I get to wondering if, for those teams, the rule that caps lock always be on is part of their new employee orientation or something.
moss* November 29, 2012 at 2:11 pm It makes people sound kinda ignorant, in my opinion. Like, “Someone let Grampaw on the computer again.”
Ask a Manager* Post authorNovember 29, 2012 at 3:02 pm Just because I find it hilarious, you should read this website, which is a dialogue between a man and his newly-texting cat: http://louisvsrick.com/post/258990156/episode-3-of-spoons-and-spiders Make sure to read all the episodes. It gets better and better as it goes along.
Elizabeth* November 29, 2012 at 8:48 pm I want a picture of Louis. I’m envisioning a dark gray tabby with white paws, for some reason.
KarenT* November 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm i have always preferred all caps 2 those 2 lazy 2 use the shift key. it is unprofessional. im stressing myself out typing this.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:53 am Ugh, all caps! Not only because of ALL THE YELLING but because it’s hard to read. Part of reading is pattern recognition, and the lowercase letters are easier to make out than a BIG BLOCK OF ALL-CAPS TEXT.
Katie* November 30, 2012 at 12:05 pm Okay, can we give some serious consideration to where the capslock phenomena comes from? What compels people to do it? I see it a lot in uneducated folks, and I’m wondering how one learns to type in this fashion. Any thoughts?
Ask a Manager* Post authorNovember 30, 2012 at 12:07 pm Maybe they think it’s like a telegram, which if I recall used to be written in all caps?
Katie* November 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm OMG, I’m going to start texting in telegram speech. TO LADY ALLISON GREEN STOP THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY APPLICATION STOP I AM THE PERFECT MEMBER FOR YOUR TEAM STOP PLEASE ACCEPT THIS FRAMED PHOTO AS GIFT STOP DID YOU RECEIVE CHOCOLATE TEAPOT GIFT SET QUESTION MARK
Jamie* November 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm I just got one – minutes ago. 4 sentences (1 run on). 8 typos (or misspellings) and about 1/4 of the punctuation it should have. The syntax reads as if it were written by a non-English speaker. Yet it was written by a soft spoken very intelligent man with a PhD in philosophy from Northwestern. I have never understood how some people “sound” so different when they write as opposed to how they speak. I’m quieter in person than I am on this forum, but if I’m feeling chatty I sound the same as I write. I make the same stupid jokes, use the same verbiage…I just will never understand why some people sound so very different in text than they do verbally. It baffles me.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 1:21 pm It puzzles me, too. If anything, I’m more erudite (!) in text than in speech.
Anonymous* November 30, 2012 at 7:51 pm I think such people are just lazy and/or think their time is more valuable than the readers, which gets especially silly on postings which many people have to decipher.
JT* November 30, 2012 at 10:55 pm I got an email from someone in all caps recently and I simply wrote back to the person and asked them not to do that because it was hard to read. They said thanks and seem to have agreed.
Jane Doe* November 29, 2012 at 1:38 pm Ugh. I worked at a company where you’d think some of the employees were borderline illiterate based on their emails. Most of these people made two or three times what I made, and were speaking with and writing to customers on a daily basis.
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 2:33 pm Same. I was just saying this morning my job of figuring out people’s issues with purchase orders would be so much easier if they figured out the shift and enter keys. Because it is SO simple to figure out a big block of bold text with PO numbers, style numbers, quantities, and what they did or didn’t get, as well as all their exposition.
Tracy* November 29, 2012 at 12:40 pm YES. Using stationery also has the side effect that some email programs read it as an attachment, so when you sort by attachments to try to quickly find that spreadsheet someone sent you, you have to wade through a bunch of “attachments” that are either stationery or logos in a signature.
Tango* November 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm Dislike the cute or inspirational quotes. Really dislike people who not only use funky fonts but then it’s not standardized throughout the signature. The name will be one font and size, their business title another size font, their company information such as address/email is a second font and color and size and their supposed inspirational quote a third color and/or font. So it looks like a madhouse of colors, fonts and sizes.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 2:47 pm If I were ever to use a quote as a sig tag there would only be one choice…my favorite Alison Green quote of all time (and there have been many): You are not in a brothel line-up. You’re in a two-way business discussion. I want so badly to have the courage to bust that out in a contentious meeting.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm And because someone will ask where it was from…https://www.askamanager.org/2012/05/im-afraid-im-about-to-be-offered-a-job-i-wont-be-good-at.html to save Alison the trouble of finding the link.
Ask a Manager* Post authorNovember 29, 2012 at 2:49 pm Ha! I was just thinking how amusing it would be if people quoted themselves in their signature block, attributed to themselves. Just whatever special piece of wisdom you’re especially impressed with yourself for coming up with, living in your emails forever afterwards.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 2:53 pm That would be awesome – and unfortunately I’m affected with enough hubris that I might be capable of that!
Samantha* November 29, 2012 at 3:44 pm I actually once received an email from someone, the mayor of a small city, who did just that! Definitely provided a good laugh for my coworkers and me.
ChristineH* November 29, 2012 at 12:49 pm The woman who sends emails to an advisory council I’m on uses 14-pt Comic Sans purple font as well as a very subtle stationery. She otherwise seems professional (she attends our meetings too), so I’m surprised she’d use that kind of font. I’ll admit, however, that before I met her, I was expecting someone less professional because of the way her emails looked, so emails can serve as a first impression. Another email gripe for me is when they have a lot of obvious grammar and/or spelling errors.
Natalie* November 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm For some reason I’ve noticed a lot of people using non-standard line spacing in their email stationery. So, for example, each line has 18 points of white space above it and if you put two carriage returns between your paragraphs it makes a vast expanse of white space. I’ve known how to type practically as long as I’ve known how to write, and it’s so.effing.hard. to not double tap the return button when I want to start a new paragraph.
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 2:37 pm Especially when you never know how someone has their signature set up, so you wind up hitting it anyway, and then you have to go back and fix it. The other thing about stationery that bothers me is people who use a lighter colored font with a colored background. Or that one stationery that has the blue swirly thing in the background, which is great except I use dark blue for my replies, and it gets lost if the letters hit that swirly bit.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 2:40 pm I can honestly say I’ve never seen stationary in a professional context. I had a couple of friends in the late 90’s early 2000s who used it to annoy people (not their purpose, but was the result) but I can’t recall the last time I’ve seen it. And this may be OT but you all have put me in a very good mood today for some reason (I love pleasant banter), so I’m sure the people I’ll be auditing this afternoon thank you…even if they never know about you.
Ellie H.* November 29, 2012 at 2:51 pm Some people I email with have some setting so that when you reply to them, it puts huge spaces between all the lines of text in their message. I’ve never been sure why that happens.
Mike B.* November 29, 2012 at 12:55 pm My organization has an official font and signature template (contact information only), both of which I use. Is that inappropriate? Most of my coworkers don’t bother (or use their own personalized fonts and templates).
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 1:16 pm If the prescribed font is a “standard” font that is professional, easy to read, and that most computer systems already have (inside and outside of your organization), I don’t see a problem with it. If your coworkers actually adhered to it I’d say that it would be a good way to present a consistent “face” of the company. But given that your coworkers don’t, I fail to see the point of having such a policy in the first place!
Kelly O* November 29, 2012 at 2:39 pm We are supposed to, but you would never know it to see some people’s emails. We don’t use a stationery, and our signatures are supposed to be Times New Roman, with our small logo after the title. It’s quite tasteful and appropriate. I use TNR for my email font, just to keep it consistent. But we have people who use all sorts of combinations. The hot pink and purple ones bug me the most. They also use giant bold fonts.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:56 am That’s pretty horrific. It’s like sending out an invoice done in crayon.
Mike* November 29, 2012 at 12:59 pm Obviously animated gifs highlighting new contact information in your signature is okay, right?
Paralegal* November 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm Since we are discussing email gripes…I hate emails that have instructions or correspondence on a scanned letter instead of pasted into the body of the email. I am guilty of this sometimes (it is still common in my office in certain practice areas), but I am trying my hardest to switch communication to text email only. It is difficult to read a scanned letter on an iPhone or Blackberry, so people ignore the email until they get back to the office, at which point they have forgotten about it.
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 1:22 pm In my office, we do the scanning and attaching thing for actual correspondence. If it’s something that I would have addressed by telephone, then do that in a regular e-mail. I’m not 100% clear on why, but I think part of the reason is that the courts don’t seem to have quite caught up with technology yet and the lawyer wants to ensure that correspondence is “formal” in the event that an issue arises from it that needs to be brought to the court’s attention.
K* November 29, 2012 at 4:47 pm I think that’s right, but 99 times out of a 100 an electronic signature is just fine, so it’s much easier to just PDF the word document directly. That makes it easily viewable on smart phones and avoids compromising picture quality (or whatever you call it).
Blanziflor* November 29, 2012 at 6:15 pm Well, a plain text email is trivial to alter. A scanned page much less so. Of course, for ultimate security, you’d want a digital signature. That should be unforgeable (with a possible exception, if you know the right warehouse in Maryland).
K* November 29, 2012 at 11:01 pm I mean, you’d want to just sign the letter in Word with a /s/name and then send it as a PDF that you create digitally (instead of scanning it in). For these purposes we’re not really talking about making something impossible to fake; any of this stuff can be faked trivially. We’re talking about creating a record of what you sent that (a) you can produce if needed, and (b) makes it obvious what version of a document (because their might be a zillion drafts you e-mailed back and forth) can be treated as the final and official one.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 12:58 am Oh, I freakin’ hate that. It was particularly bad at one place I worked, where doing that was common and there was no way to view the attachment’s contents without downloading it first. No, I do not want to download this PDF and open up another program so that I can get information that you could have just pasted into the email itself.
Mints* November 29, 2012 at 1:22 pm I’d like to show everybody this http://dyslexicfonts.com/demo.php It’s font that’s supposed to help with dyslexia! Isn’t that cool? I didn’t actually install it on my computer (since I’m not dyslexic), but kept it book marked to install on my boyfriends computer whenever he gets one. It looks a bit weird, but I’m doing this PSA in case you see it, you won’t lump it together with the hated comic sans or other unprofessional weirdness.
Sasha* November 29, 2012 at 2:21 pm Very interesting. I didn’t realize that “bottom heavy” characters are easier to read. Thanks for sharing!
Henning Makholm* November 29, 2012 at 4:20 pm But does it work? I don’t know the first thing about dyslexia, but have a strong hunch that it is not a anywhere near a simple condition. So if someone claims they can mitigate it with something as simple as a typeface, I’d like to see data from some controlled experiments with actual dyslexics.
A Bug!* November 29, 2012 at 6:13 pm I’m by no means educated in this area, but I can see on a surface level how it could work. My understanding is that people with dyslexia often have trouble distinguishing letters that are a similar shape but different orientation. b, q, p, d being a common example, or 6 and 9. A person with dyslexia can’t immediately identify the orientation because the letters are less spatially “fixed” the way they are for non-dyslexic people. By making the letters bottom-heavy, it tells the reader which way the letter anchors. To illustrate my point a little, picture a set of pool balls. The 6 and the 9 usually have a line to indicate the orientation of the number – otherwise you wouldn’t be able to tell without using additional information. I would be interested in seeing actual studies to back up whether or not the font is effective, but I would not be surprised that it does help some dyslexic readers.
Abelardo Gonzalez* November 30, 2012 at 12:32 am Your assesment is pretty much spot-on. You’ll have to wait on the studies tho: OpenDyslexic is very young so it’d be hard to have studies already done on it, but there are being studies done on it now, and there will be in the future.
A Bug!* November 30, 2012 at 4:48 pm Hey, neat, hi! Thank you for popping in! The work you’re doing is really great to see, not just the work itself but the fact that you’re making it available at no cost to users. I hope that it’s helpful to at least some portion of users with dyslexia. I wish you big success!
Chris* November 29, 2012 at 1:41 pm Ugh. The backgrounds are what kill me the most. I have my inbox set up so that items from certain people with attachments go to another folder. When someone uses stationery, I get that in the attachment folder.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm Backgrounds are the WORST. When combined with cursive fonts, they successfully render the email unreadable.
Joey* November 29, 2012 at 1:50 pm These are the same folks who probably send resumes with that crap.
some1* November 29, 2012 at 2:30 pm When I was a receptionist years ago, I was sent a resume and cover letter for the boss that was done in a display font, like that you would use on a wedding invitation. I literally got a headache from trying to read blocks of text in that font.
The Other Dawn* November 29, 2012 at 2:27 pm We have one person in our office that uses the comic sans font. It doesn’t bother me, but it does come across as her being immature. Maybe it shouldn’t, but it does. It kind of says to me that she wants to do her own thing.
some1* November 29, 2012 at 2:27 pm At a former job, I had just my name as cursive in my signature, and the rest (title, address of the business) was in a regular font, just because I liked the way the cursive looked for my name. I had to use a larger font size to make the cursive more legible. I was so embarrassed when I realized if I am emailing someone who doesn’t support that font, my name was in these gigantic letters and I looked like the biggest egomaniac. At that job part of my duties was coordinating with customers would seek permission to use content that we owned. We had a Permissions mailbox that automatically bumped to my email. One woman who emailed me about seeking a permission had a combined religious/political quote that I found so offensive, I honestly thought about just deleting her email but I helped her anyway. And was polite in my response.
Anonymous* November 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm I think my personal gripe would be emails sent with different colored fonts to emphasize different points. I once received an email from a staffing agency about an in house position they had and the sender used different (neon bright) colored fonts to highlight each part of email. Considering she was a recruiter, it appeared pretty unprofessional. Is it ever really professional when your emails look like the cast of Rainbow Brite wrote the email for you? My entire correspondence with her entailed the rainbow of font colors. I turned down the position, mainly due to my interaction with the recruiter. I just found it odd that no one ever brought to her attention that presenting herself this way is unprofessional.
Jamie* November 29, 2012 at 3:59 pm I think my personal gripe would be emails sent with different colored fonts to emphasize different points. In the example you gave I totally agree. I do use this, sparingly, but effectively with bold red font to highlight that which it’s your butt not mine if you disregard. Like times when the network will be down for maintenance, etc. It’s one sentence maybe twice a year, if that, but bright red font from me everyone knows I will not cover for you if you don’t follow clearly marked instructions to shut down and you lose files. your emails look like the cast of Rainbow Brite wrote the email for you? Ha! Love the visual!
Blanziflor* November 29, 2012 at 6:10 pm What does the font choice matter? Both pine and mutt are going to display it in Courier, in an 80 column terminal with colours of my choosing.
Kate* November 29, 2012 at 6:33 pm My job is transitioning to Google Apps and I think I groaned out loud when I got to the part about how to change fonts and colors and use emoticons. The people that would use that effectively would find it on their own, and the people that will use 14-point bold pink don’t need encouragement!
Mary* November 29, 2012 at 6:48 pm At my company, we use an office-wide chat program. I feel like I’m being yelled at whenever one woman sends me a “call me” written in bright blue, 20-point Comic Sans. Of course, my supervisor occasionaly changes her font to Papyrus and writes to me just to get me all riled up. I usually reply with “BITE ME” in 30-point hot pink Comic Sans. Casual office environments FTW!
Agile Phalanges* November 29, 2012 at 7:24 pm *pout* But I LIKE my dark blue Garamond! I’ve used that color and font for all my e-mails/IMs since I can remember, both personal and work. I used the default (or at least business-accepted) fonts in Word and Excel to conform to society, but e-mail is the one place you can show a little bit of variety, and I think mine is still pretty business like. I do sympathize, though–I hate when people have funky stationery in Outlook, or the weird settings you discussed above that cause extra-large line breaks. And someone in our company uses Comic Sans for EVERYTHING. Not just e-mail, but it’s her default for everything. She set up a lot of the spreadsheets STILL used in accounting, and I still occasionally see one floating around. Accounting! In Comic Sans! Ugh. Do I really have to switch out Garamond for Times New Roman?
Jen in RO* November 30, 2012 at 7:56 am I write in dark blue Verdana and I’m not changing it. I actually prefer it when people use a non-standard font, as long as it’s legible and not in a funky color. My boss uses black Calibri, for example. And while there is someone who writes in green Comic Sans, she’s such a nice and helpful lady I can’t hold it against her.
JT* November 30, 2012 at 11:09 pm Garamond is not good on the computer screen – it’s too fine and designed for high quality printing. It is serious enough, but not as clear as it should be onscreen, at least at small (text) sizes. Times New Roman is tolerable – designed for low quality printing in the newspaper, and so works OK in low quality viewing on screen. Some newer fonts such as Constantia and others with names starting with the letter C from Microsoft are examples that work well on screen and can look professional. Calibri – mentioned by Jen in RO – is an excellent font for email. It is not soon to be considered “non-standard” since it comes with most MS Office products.
Patti* November 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm Blue, black, standard fonts… all fine. There has never been nor witll there ever be any need for more than one color, or more than one font size/style in the same email. And… for the people who feel like it’s “festive” to stick a picture of a giant turkey in your email signature for Thanksgiving, please go back to 1st grade and try again. Yes… I said in the signature. Every. Single. Email. Giant turkey. Now we’re up against candy cane pictures, with alternating red and green letters. Someone make it stop.
Elise* November 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm Any sort of stationary in the email or fonts outside the normal range can cause problems if the recipient is using JAWS Software to try to read the information. JAWS is used by those who are visually impaired but still want/need to do things on the computer. If your job isn’t government you don’t officially have to worry about 508 compliance, but it’s still not nice to make things potentially more difficult to the person you are messaging.
Rana* November 30, 2012 at 1:03 am That’s a really good point. I have a friend who uses JAWS and it’s been an enlightening experience helping her navigate some of the webpages out there. Some of the ones that look really user friendly are terrible for her, and vice versa.
Lana* November 29, 2012 at 10:49 pm What about Calibri 11Pt in Blue? This is the default font and color my company uses and we are required to have a photograph next to our name in the signature. Any thoughts on that? Should I change the font and color to so something more neutral?
Ellie H.* November 30, 2012 at 1:30 am We have default 11pt Calibri too. I thought it was Outlook’s standard. I adore it. Ours is default black for new messages, and very dark blue for replies, which I actually really like.
JT* November 30, 2012 at 10:58 pm But very dark blue and black look almost the same to people w/o good vision, so that distinction is not helpful in some cases.
JT* November 30, 2012 at 11:12 pm Sorry I placed the comment “above” from 10:58 in the wrong place somehow – it was in reply to Ellie H. at November 30, 2012 at 1:30 am
Jen* November 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm As a former Comm. Mgr at a healthcare/social service nonprofit I was responsible for setting up our email brand (type, font size, professional formatting), but it was very hard to enforce. I didn’t want to be the email police, HR didn’t want to do it either. I thought it should go to each manager/director to supervise their direct reports but they never enforced it either.
Noah* November 30, 2012 at 12:15 am There must be a way to force font and color selection in group policy on Windows Server. Where I work we couldn’t change the font or color if we wanted to. The signature is also set by IT to meet corporate policy.
Cassie* November 30, 2012 at 12:18 am I got an email from someone at US Navy (handles contracts and whatnot) with a signature quote by Marie Curie, with a smiley face. It was weird. Actually, not just a smiley face, but a winking face with a nose too! I think my email (Thunderbird) might be set up a specific way that isn’t plain text… I’ve gotten replies back from people and see html code all over the email I sent. I assume it’s because whatever application they used to read the email is plain text only? I should probably fix that.
Yvi* November 30, 2012 at 10:05 am For me, there is one, and exactly one, situation where a standard font and plain text just won’t do – if you include source code in your mail, formatting it in a Courier or something like that is cool. Because that’s how many of us view source code all day, that’s familiar and also means the code pieces belonging together actually end up being displayed together. And means I won’t have to copy & paste it into an editor just to read it.