our boss hired his emotionally unstable son to work with us by Alison Green on September 10, 2024 A reader writes: I work in a preclinical (no patients) research lab in a hospital. The team involved in our day-to-day work is small, consisting of three full-time employees and the lab manager. We all have to work together closely to get studies done. Our top boss and PI, Cyrus, is the head of the entire neuroscience research department at this hospital. The issue is that recently Cyrus’s son (Phil, fresh out of college) was hired. It seemed like a decision made by Cyrus, with little input from our manager or the rest of us. He has been an intern with us occasionally over the past few years, but this is his first time working with us as a full-time employee. According to my manager, HR initially raised a red flag, but then company policies were skirted by having Phil be technically under a different manager who does not report to Cyrus. However, his work is de facto 100% with us, all people who work under his dad. If Phil was a good hire, we would probably have given the whole situation some side-eye but let it be. However, he has been extremely difficult to work with in the week since he started full-time. His work is relatively competent, but when it’s criticized or changes are made, he takes it extremely personally, and when he is upset he is confrontational, very emotional, and disrespectful. As one example, Phil was constantly interrupting my manager, Ezra, literally mid-sentence with corrected pronunciations of chemical compounds. That entire meeting was Phil and Ezra arguing while I sat on the other side of the table in fight-or-flight mode (heavily leaning “flight”). It ended with Phil angrily saying, “I’m going home” and storming off after Ezra asked, “Are we good?” Cyrus is involved with our research only at a high level and is not around 95% of the time to see the day-to-day happenings. I’m dubious that raising the issue with him would help, given an incident a month or two ago, when Phil was an intern. Phil had an emotional breakdown at work (not directed at any of us) where he was yelling, sobbing, and throwing things in his office (at least according to the others; I was not there to see this). One of my colleagues (Sam) brought it up to Cyrus, who I guess turned around and yelled at his son. Phil ended up calling and texting our other coworker (Edward), thinking he was the one who ratted him out, saying things like “Who told dad,” “Fucking answer me” (I saw the screenshots), and making threats (according to Edward). Nothing else happened in terms of work-related disciplinary actions for Phil, can’t speak on whatever may have happened back home, as he still lives with his dad. There is also of course the power dynamic — none of us want to raise issues with our boss about his child, regardless of if it would help our situation or not. Cyrus is significant and well-regarded in our field. Besides all this stuff with his son, he’s been a decent boss and person, so I don’t know if potential backlash is a real concern, but it’s there nonetheless. I’ve never had direct conflict with Phil. (For better or worse, I am very good at not being confrontational and hedging my words. Hurray to being socialized as a woman in a STEM field.) I’m not in any kind of managerial role, so I don’t know if it’s my place to go to Cyrus, or to HR. I’m unsure if my manager will take action on either of those fronts. I don’t know if either of those things would even help. I super do not want to have to work by myself with Phil. Finding another job is of course an option, but that would be tragic for me as the work is my dream job and I absolutely love my coworkers (besides Phil). What’s a lowly research assistant to do? What a mess! “Who told dad” is … well, a sentence you don’t hear at work a lot. As is “fucking answer me” (!). Cyrus is doing his son no favors if his protection means Phil isn’t learning professional norms. Unless Phil can be assured of working in places where his dad will protect him for his entire career (good luck with the math on that, assuming Cyrus isn’t a vampire and won’t be alive and working for the entirety of Phil’s career), he’s setting Phil up for some really unpleasant consequences down the road — and those consequences tend to be more painful if they come at 45 than if they come at 23. But I don’t think you need to do anything. You’re low in the hierarchy and Phil isn’t feuding with you. Yes, it’s disruptive to have him around, but it sounds like others are affected a lot more than you are. That doesn’t mean you don’t have standing to raise it anyway — a disruptive coworker is a disruptive coworker — but others are a lot better positioned to raise it, both in terms of seniority and in being directly affected. First and foremost, your manager, Ezra. He might be looking at the politics of Phil being the boss’s son and choosing not to address it. And maybe that’s the right move; in some cases, in some organizations, it would be. But if Ezra is avoiding it only because of the familial relationship and not because internal politics clearly signal he should stay quiet … eh, I’m not a fan of that. You say Cyrus is known to be a decent boss and a decent person, and he did deal with Phil when he learned of an issue in the past (by yelling at him, which isn’t great — but he didn’t punish the messenger). It’s true that the fact that he’s brought his son on board at all says his judgment in skewed in this area, but unless Ezra has a specific reason to think it would be dangerous for him to talk to Cyrus, I’d argue that he should. Or if not Cyrus, then to the “different manager” that HR assigned for Phil. Or to HR, since they clearly realized this would be problematic. Ezra has a few different options. The same is true for your coworkers who have been the target of Phil’s rudeness, like Edward. Feel free to point that out to them. That said, I do think you could and perhaps should talk to Ezra about not wanting to work alone with Phil. If that’s likely to come up, it would be reasonable to say to Ezra, “I’m not comfortable working alone with Phil because he’s been so erratic and volatile. I don’t know if you’re working behind the scenes on the issues with him — I hope someone is because he’s been so disruptive — but for my part, I want to make sure I won’t be expected to work alone with him.” You may also like:I manage my daughter and someone complained about hermy boss's son constantly yells at him in the officemy dad has been applying to jobs pretending to be me { 160 comments }
coworker doesn’t listen, candidate assumed I was a man, and more by Alison Green on September 10, 2024 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. My coworker doesn’t listen and then pretends she was never told I’m having an issue with my coworker, Christine. I am in no way her supervisor so I’m not sure there’s anything I can do, but here goes! Basically, she complains that our boss, Lars, doesn’t tell her things and then Lars gets upset with her afterwards for not knowing. I can see why that would be incredibly frustrating. Except the last couple of times she has told me that’s happened, I was in the room with them and I know Lars told her the correct info. For example, Lars told me and Christine that we were going to use Form X instead of Y. The next day, Christine used the wrong form and Lars asked her why. Christine tells me Lars never told her, so I said that he did in fact the day before. First she says she wasn’t in the room, I remind her she was. Then she says he must have been talking to me and not her, but it was just the three of us in a small room and I talked about it with her afterwards so I know she heard him. Then she says she just “wasn’t listening” but again, we talked about it so I know she knew. From other experiences with her, I don’t think she has a great memory, but instead of admitting or realizing that, she just says Lars never told her things. She’s done the same to me even though I can send her screenshots of our chat or forward emails that she’s replied to. It’s mostly complaints about Lars, which doesn’t directly impede my work, but when she does it to me, it’s frustrating that I have to ask her to do something three times and then she takes zero responsibility for dropping the ball. She is job searching, so is there really anything I can or should do or should I just hope she moves on soon? That might be part of it too — she’s just checked out mentally since she’s planning to leave. But honestly I’d rather have her just say “Yeah, I know we’re supposed to use X instead of Y but I don’t care” instead of lying to me about it! There’s a decent chance she’s not deliberating lying but is simply a scattered mess and not keeping track of stuff. She could be genuinely surprised when she’s confronted with evidence that she was previously told things. There’s also a decent chance that she is lying — that she sees it as a way to save face and doesn’t understand how bad it makes her look. It doesn’t really matter; it’s frustrating either way. I don’t think you need to do anything about it — as you say, you’re not her manager — but you also don’t need to pretend you don’t see it happening. If you want, the next time it occurs, you could say, “I don’t know if you realize this happens a lot — you’re sure Lars or I never told you something when we actually did. Sometimes I was there during the conversation with him, or I have emails that you replied to confirming you knew. Is everything okay?” If she thinks she’s getting away with it, this might drive home that she’s not and maybe nudge her to do it less in the future. Or it might have no effect at all! But you’re not required to pretend you don’t see it. (Similarly, the next time she complains to you about Lars not telling her something, feel free to say, “I don’t know, a lot of times when you’ve thought that in the past, it’s turned out that he did tell you.”) 2. Should I correct a candidate who assumed I was a man? I’m a woman with a name that reflects that: let’s say Anne Smith. I don’t work in a male-dominated industry. We’re adding new people to our team for work that we’ve got a contract to cover, and I’m pre-screening the candidates by having short phone interviews. The role is research on a very specific topic (let’s say metallic red teapots with brown spouts produced in the south in 1853), but we’re just looking for people with a MS in pottery and 2+ years of teapot experience. I’ve compiled a solid short list quickly and I think we’ll have the jobs filled in record time. Yesterday we got an application from Fergus, a candidate finishing a PhD on exactly the topic we’re working on. And of course that PhD came with many years of experience doing research. On paper, Fergus seems perfectly (over) qualified. So I reached out to schedule a phone screen, addressing him by him by his first name and signing the email with my first name, which is the norm in our industry (but perhaps not in the region of the U.S. that he is in). He promptly wrote back with, “Mr. Smith, here are dates/times that work for me, thanks, Fergus Jones.” I ignored the “Mr.” and wrote back a quick, “Thanks, I’ll call you at date/time — Anne.” Fergus responded with, “Sir, I look forward to speaking with you then.” It’s not bothering me that he doesn’t seem to know the gender of the person he’s talking to, but I would be mortified if I realized at the start of an interview that I had misgendered the interviewer multiple times (and I sound like a woman on the phone). So I debated responding with a clarifying email (“Just a heads-up that I’m actually Ms. Smith”) but asked my partner for his two cents. He said, “Hey, if Fergus can’t see that the signature on your emails is a big and bold line that says ‘Anne Smith (she/her),’ is he really going to be that great of a researcher? Ignore it and see how he handles it at the interview.” Good point, but I miss things sometimes too, so I also ran it by a friend who hires in a more male-dominated industry. She responded, “Do you have your pronouns in your signature? He’s doing it on purpose.” So … uh … is this really a thing? Do I try to clarify over email in advance or see what happens in the interview? Most of us in the company have our pronouns in our signatures and many people in the agencies we work for do as well. And it’s great that his experience so closely aligns with what we’re looking for, but we do have several other strong candidates: I’m not worried about filling the positions. I doubt he’s doing it on purpose. There are people who are hostile to the idea of pronouns in email signatures — or to respecting people’s pronouns generally — but they don’t normally take an openly hostile stand while they’re trying to get a job with you. It’s more likely he’s (a) defaulting to the sexist assumption that anyone with hiring authority would of course be a man and (b) not paying enough attention to see the big glaring sign in front of his face that you are not. Both of these are problems if you’re hiring someone who needs to have attention to detail and an ability to work respectfully with women. You do not need to try to save him from embarrassment over his own actions by clarifying pre-interview. Let him learn the lesson on his own (if he will, which he probably won’t). Note: it’s possible Fergus is from a culture where Anne isn’t a common name and he doesn’t recognize it as typically feminine. His use of “sir” also might point in that direction since that’s not how we typically write emails in the U.S. But it doesn’t really matter because both the points above still hold, given that your pronouns were right there. 3. I told a networker the truth about my awful old boss but they didn’t believe me Last year I left a role on Team A where I routinely got screamed at. As you might imagine, it was a really bad place to work: favoritism, no empathy from leadership, inconsistent expectations, high workload with high expectations and zero resources. And of course, the screaming. Thankfully I moved onto a new team B where I’m treated very well. There is an opening on my current team and on my old team — both are essentially the same job I have now and had then. Someone on LinkedIn reached out to me and asked if I was the hiring manager (obviously I am not) and if not, could I tell them about the role(s) and/or introduce them to the hiring manager or someone else to ask questions. No problem! I am happy to help out and answer questions. It turns out they have applied only to my old department, so my response was something like, “Sure, I can introduce you to someone, but to be completely transparent, part of the reason I left that team is because I do not enjoy being screamed at.” I know the job market is rough right now — a lot of my friends are struggling. But I believe in being honest about this kind of thing and I don’t want to encourage someone to walk into that situation. But the person who reached out to me about this clearly didn’t believe me. I think I’ve done what I can and I know I don’t have any obligation to do anything else, though I did give her the name of the hiring manager (the screamer). What I’m curious about is if there is a better way to be up-front about this kind of thing or if there’s anything you would have recommended doing differently? Kudos to you for being straightforward about it. You’ve given them important information that’s often very hard for outside candidates to get (until they start working there and discover it too late). You can’t do more than that; if they don’t believe you, it’s not your job to convince them. Sometimes people refuse to accept this kind of info because they want the job so they they tell themselves it couldn’t really be as bad as you said, or that you fed into the problem yourself (you deserved to be screamed at — the office version of “your skirt was too short”), or that they’ll just somehow have a different experience. It’s short-sighted, but it happens. To be fair, sometimes people do have a different experience! Some people have a higher tolerance for yellers, or vibe with the boss in a different way, or just don’t care as much as others would. But not believing you is weird. I don’t think you need to change anything about how you approached it. Your response was pretty perfect, in fact. You gave the relevant info matter-of-factly and concisely. What someone does with it is up to them. Related: should I warn job candidates about how bad my company is? 4. Former employee keeps hassling me to come back after I was fired Last winter, I was let go from a company where I had worked for seven years. Now that they’re in their busy season, a former direct report has been contacting me constantly, begging me to come back. He was always a bit erratic when I was his manager, going through periods where he’d make bizarre claims like being independently wealthy and not needing the job, only to later demand a $10,000 raise because he was struggling financially. His work was good and he filled a niche we needed, so I tolerated his emotional outbursts, even when they involved him venting to me for 45 minutes at a time. Odd people deserve jobs too, right? However, now that I’m no longer being paid to manage this kind of behavior, I’m not thrilled about being dragged into work drama again. I’ve offered to help out during the busy season because I’d like to repair my reputation at the company, where I was once a valued employee before burnout led to my departure. My former boss informed me that the higher-ups rejected the idea of me returning, but they didn’t tell my former employee this. Instead, it seems they’ve told him that I burned bridges, and now he’s pressuring me to “mend fences,” saying the team can’t manage without me. I’m currently searching for my next role and am hesitant to alienate anyone who could potentially help me find work. What should I do? Realistically, how likely is this guy to help you find work? He seems to have terrible judgment (on display when you worked there, plus now in hassling you to return after being fired; even if he doesn’t know you were fired, his belief that it’s appropriate to badger someone into returning to a job doesn’t speak well of him) and I’m skeptical that he’s a valuable contact who you need to preserve a relationship with at all costs. You could simply ignore his messages. But if you don’t want to do that, there’s nothing wrong with saying the next time he contacts you, “I’ve offered. They’ve declined. I’m not going to pursue it further, so please stop asking me to.” Or skip the details and just say, “It’s not on the table, so please stop asking about it.” 5. Rejected by text After a phone interview, an in-person interview, and a work sample (unpaid), I’ve just been rejected for a job over text. The rejection itself doesn’t sting as I had decided the job isn’t right for me, but I can’t get over them doing it by text! Should I say something? Is there a way to without sounding catty? Ordinarily I think I’d just leave it, but the person who sent the message had told me they’ve only worked there seven weeks. Part of me feels like maybe someone should tell them how unprofessional it is, especially at this stage of the process. Is a quick “Thanks for letting me know, this is news I would have rather received over email or a phone call, but all the best in your search” even worth it or should I just forget it ever happened? Ugh, why do people do this?! This is not a casual “I’m running 10 minutes late, meet you inside” message. It’s professional news of some weight and it should be treated that way. As for whether or not to say anything, I’m torn. On one hand, it’s good for hiring managers to get feedback about this sort of thing, and you might be telling her something she genuinely had never thought about and she might rethink it for the future. On the other hand, when you give feedback about how a rejection was delivered, there’s always a risk that it’ll bite you in some way in the future. For example, if a job opening comes up there next month that you’d be perfect for, will she not contact you about it because she’s embarrassed or feels chilly toward you now (whereas she would have contacted you otherwise)? Or if you apply there in the future, same concerns. I really hate telling people not to deliver well-warranted feedback because it plays right into the problematic power dynamics already present in an interview situation, and also because employers will never learn if they don’t get feedback from candidates … but you’ve got to balance all that and decide how much you care about each piece of it. 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the pumpkin conspiracy, the illegitimate squirrel, and other office competitions gone bad by Alison Green on September 9, 2024 Last week we talked about office contests gone awry. Here are 13 of the funniest stories you shared. 1. The bugs Early in my career as a software engineer, the company wanted to improve the quality of the software products. They offered cash bonuses to the testing teams for finding bugs, and cash bonuses to the developers if the bugs were fixed within a week. As you might expect, the developers started planting bugs in the code so they could get the bonus for fixing them. Unfortunately, testing rarely catches all of the bugs. Quality dropped and complaints jumped as customers found the bugs that the testers missed. 2. The squirrel When I worked for a city government, I served a stint on the Employee Advisory Committee (we hosted parties, fundraisers, blood drives, charity runs, etc. for employees, as a means of keeping everyone slightly happier, I guess). Anyway, one time we tried a “cutest pet” contest. I don’t even think we awarded prizes; it was just something to do and distract ourselves for a week from the monotony of issuing building permits and renewing driver’s licenses. All we asked was for participants to email a photo of their pet, then we sent out an email with all the pictures compiled and asked employees to vote for their favorite, anonymously via an online poll. Again, it was ALL optional and I don’t think we were even giving out prizes! One person sent in a photo of a squirrel (in a tree). I remember thinking at the time, “Huh but whatever” (I mean it’s totally reasonable that someone doesn’t actually have a pet, maybe they “adopted” their backyard squirrel … small local government workers are quirky people!). I included the squirrel pic in the mix (which was mostly dogs and cats dressed up in little outfits). Little did I know this would fully turn into SquirrelGate – I had so many people complain that this was Unfair, Not A Legitimate Pet, Animal Cruelty, etc. THEN, some dogged detective did a reverse image search and found the photo came from a public website (I think it was like the fifth image that came up if you google “squirrel”) so the SQUIRREL WASN’T EVEN REAL, and that revelation got people even more mad. I’m absolutely not kidding – I had more departments contacting me about this damn squirrel than I had in my previous five years working for that city. We had to issue a disclaimer and remove the squirrel votes from the tabulation; it was a Whole Thing. Needless to say, it was the last cutest pet contest we put on. I think the guy who sent in the squirrel in the first place (as a troll) got exactly the reaction he was hoping for. 3. The videos We had a contest where we were supposed to make a video about our team’s work, except there was no prize, and it wasn’t optional. Nobody wanted to do it, but if you’re going to make us, you’ll get what you get… We filmed four of us sitting at our desks, doing our boring desk jobs, for whatever the required length of the video was. Then someone combined these into a four-way split screen. Done. That was our entry. It got what might have been the biggest laugh at the also-required viewing session, because while we certainly weren’t the only ones who thought the whole thing was stupid, we were the only ones with the chutzpah to take the assignment so literally. 4. The game I was a grad student at a very tech-oriented university where the atmosphere was extremely competitive and the gender ratio skewed heavily male. The computers in our lab all ran a game called Hextris — like Tetris, but the tiles were hexagonal instead of square. The game would display the names and scores of the top players when you opened it, and one of the guys in the lab became absolutely obsessed with always having the top score. He would check it multiple times a day, and if anyone beat his score, he would sit and play — sometimes for hours at a time — until he was on top again. So one of the other students hacked the game, and made it always display somebody else’s score at the top whenever this guy signed on. It drove him completely wild, and he wasted several days doing nothing but playing that stupid game (instead of, say, studying or writing his thesis) before he finally caught on. 5. The braggart In our office, many people share a love for spicy food. Mark (fake name of course) was one of those guys who loved to think he did everything better than other people. Did you go on vacation to Maldives? He went to Mars. Did you purchase a new laptop? His was built by Bill Gates himself, and so on. One day, a potluck was organized to celebrate a coworker moving to another country. This person adored spicy food, so some of us prepared it. There was plenty of regular food, but to avoid incidents, the spicy one was labelled appropriately. Now, one of the dishes was a stew with a sauce made with Carolina Reapers. I was used to spicy food, but that one literally burnt my tongue. I loved it! Once Mark saw a group of us eating that dish, he wanted to try it. We tried to warn him that it was really spicy, maybe take a small, small bite to see how you do. He grabbed a spoon from the table, took a generous portion of the stew and proceed to smugly telling us that he was perfectly able to handle spicy food. He GULPED the entire bowl while we stared in horror (and a bit of delight in my case). Long story short, an ambulance was called after he collapsed on the floor gagging and writhing in pain. Once he returned, he still had the gall to claim that it was indigestion and not stupidity that caught him. Someone left a small jar of Carolina Reaper extract on his desk a couple of days later since he wouldn’t drop the subject. He threw it in the bin, and never commented about it again. 6. The sweater Last year we decided to do an office-wide Christmas sweater contest to end our holiday charity giving campaign. There were three cash prizes for the most festive sweaters. Usually, the office is pretty laid back about these type of contests and they go off without much of a fuss. This one was different. We had a happy hour event where people voted for the sweaters anonymously. Apparently one of my coworkers was extremely upset that she did not win first place (she came in second) and she spent the entire evening insulting the first place winner. She even asked people if they wanted to redo the vote and if they should model the sweaters because there’s no way she should have lost. I couldn’t believe the other person actually agreed to the “modeling” and re-voting; they ended up strutting through the bar in their sweaters and doing the vote all over again. The complaining coworker lost a second time and spent the remainder of the evening asking us if we liked her because there’s no way we could have possibly thought the other sweater was more festive than hers. 7. The pumpkin carving contest Each year, my company held a pumpkin carving contest. I was the organizer one year. Employees would judge the entries in various categories. If we had 10 entries, we were thrilled. It was low-stakes. It was a nonprofit organization and there were no prizes. Entrants were aware that they were competing for the glory of bragging rights. And yet… One manager (who was no one’s favorite) told her team that her pumpkin was #6 and to vote for her. And, yes, her pumpkin was on the table next to the #6 when she dropped it off that morning, but I later needed to move the pumpkins around before the judging began and she was no longer pumpkin #6. Well. By the time she found out, her team had already voted and dutifully voted for her because she was their pushy manager. Our low-tech online polling system did not allow for re-dos. She was loudly upset at me; at the unfairness of it all. She yelled at me that she told her team to vote for #6 but that wasn’t her pumpkin! I don’t think she realized how bad this made her look. We’re talking about a person over the age of 50 who was a director of a team and who stood to gain nothing from winning this contest. I believe that her team accidentally voted for a unicorn pumpkin painted by a very nice person in another department. (See how laid-back this was? We allowed *painted* pumpkins in a Pumpkin Carving Contest.) 8. The face mask During Covid, my division of my company (around 150 people spread around the country) started having monthly contests and the winner would be announced during our monthly team calls. In October, the contest was “show us your favorite mask” – you know, Halloween-themed. So, as a joke, I put on a clay face mask (the kind for skin care) instead of some monster mask and emailed a photo off to the coordinator with a snarky “does this count” lol. I hit reply-all accidentally. And realized it far too late to recall it. The only balm (uh, aside from the facemask) for my mortification was I tied for the win. Was it out of pity? Probably. Don’t care – I used that $10 Amazon card like nobody’s business! 9. The leg A corporate-sponsored speaker came in right after we were ordered to come back to the office to try and boost morale or something. None of the bosses or directors were there, having sent an email that they were working from home, which really ticked everyone off. We gave this speaker a pretty hard time, ignoring him and talking amongst ourselves. His presentations were mostly about why remote work was never going to be the norm and some stuff that was union-bustingly awkward. He tried to get us up and involved with, “Okay, who can stand on one foot the longest! Woo! Let’s get that blood pumping!” My coworker, RJ, is an amputee so he popped his leg off and left it standing, sat back down and dug a novel out of his bag and started to read. RJ is my hero. 10. The Christmas competition I used to work for an office supplies company that held an annual Christmas decorating competition. Every department used to go all out. Lights, handmade decorations, trees etc. One year they realized it was a bit over the top and starting to cost people, so they made a rule that only recycled goods could be used. The marketing department had a surplus of Christmas catalogues that year and spent weeks papering their area. There was a catalogue tree, catalogue snow flakes, catalogue Santa. It looked amazing and they won. THE UPROAR. “Did any of our customers even get a catalogue or did marketing hoard them all for the competition??” The catalogues were mostly misprints, but the hours they’d put into the decorations kind of added up too. How are they “so overworked” but had time for that? You would think that would shut the comp down, but it just got more competitive. Trees made out of old printer cartridges and reams of paper. Santa’s workshops with elaborate cardboard fittings attached to lights. Marketing tried to one up themselves and designed a full 18-hole Christmas-themed mini golf course around the office. Another team made their staff follow the judges around caroling. I no longer work there but it was definitely becoming a hazard. You couldn’t walk two meters without tripping over some cardboard golf course or knocking a series of snowflake buntings down. Teams would spend weeks making decorations instead of working. Then by new years the recycling and by extension dumpsters would be filled with stapled painted and taped up paper decorations and cardboard. The prize? A fish and chip lunch. I hope they no longer go to such lengths now but the amount of time money and resources wasted on a team-building exercise was crazy. 11. The pumpkins, part 2 We have a notoriously difficult assistant, Ann, who truly has a talent for finding things to complain about. One year, we had a pumpkin decorating contest, and the pumpkins were all donated to a local kids charity after. Ann first complained that she does not believe in Halloween and this would indoctrinate the kids at the charity. She then complained that anyone who has time to decorate a pumpkin must not be doing their job. Finally, when she saw the decorated pumpkins, she complained that not enough people had entered (we had like 12), and it was an embarrassment to our organization that we couldn’t come together for the kids. 12. The snow Several winters ago, Minnesota received a larger-than-usual snowfall. The company who plowed the area around our business ran out of room and pushed the snow from the last several snowstorms into a far corner of our parking lot. This area was shaded, so the snow took forever to melt. The owner of the company decided that whoever correctly guessed the day the snow was finally melted would receive a gift card. The intensity with which my coworkers determined their guesses was impressive. They consulted long-range forecasts and the Farmer’s Almanac, performed simple melting tests on their coffee breaks; for a period of time, I mulled over updating our mission statement, as apparently “make money” was no longer it. Once all the guesses were in, the wait began. Since my office window was the closest to the snow pile, I got the joy of people trudging in and out of my office all day long. Rainy days, which sped up the melt, were everyone’s nemesis. I got so tired of the contest, I mentally tabulated the length of extension cord it would take to use my hair dryer (in the dead of night) to melt that sucker and be done with it. Who won? No one. The rule was that your guess had to be the exact day the snow was gone – not a day before or after. Only one coworker was left standing and judging by his guess and the weather forecast, he was soon to be the happy owner of a Walmart gift card. His victory was not to be, however, since our owner’s frugal side refused to be denied and convinced him that sneaking out to the little snow pile and heaving coffee cups full of snow onto the lawn was a completely reasonable thing to do. I have watched enough mob movies to know that “snitches get stitches” and because I was the solo witness, my coworkers were never told of the sad, duplicitous end to our snow pile. 13. The new year’s decorating contest Back in my early career, I was employed in a call center. Call centers are notorious for being a lot like high school but with more drama, and this one was no different. You had to bid on shifts regularly, with your rank based on performance, and over time things had coalesced so that I was on a stable team with other oddballs — a handful of lifers and people who were using the relatively high wages to support them through school. We all came in, kept our heads down, and avoided the drama as much as possible. Part of the environment was regular decorating contests, which my group always ignored. We were all top performers so the consequences were minimal, but upper management clearly thought we had a bad attitude. So when they announced that the COO would be flying in to tour the site in December 2012, our manager was told that we HAD to participate in the New Year’s decorating contest. She announced this to the team and said she didn’t care design we chose, as long as we did a minimum decorating level. In the silence that followed, one of the students spoke up to clarify that she did indeed mean “any design,” and she confirmed that she did not care. For those of you have forgotten, in late 2012 there was a whole weird New Age apocalypse thing going around, based on the supposed end of the Mayan calendar. The proposed design was “New Year apocalypse” and my team was suddenly very enthusiastic about decorating. We built a huge 3D Mayan pyramid that we put over our manager’s cubicle, with smaller ones on every desk. We were fortunate enough to have a large plate glass window in our area, and we painted a large comet coming in for impact. We discussed wearing tin foil hats, but decided they didn’t work with the headsets, so instead we put them on top of our monitors. We made a large banner proclaiming, “Welcome to the New Year… hope you survive the experience!” which we put up just before the COO got to the floor. I have fond memories of our site manager explaining that we were the top performing team in the site to the COO while glaring at us. Our manager remained serene throughout, and when the votes for the contest were counted we came in second. Interestingly enough, there were very specific guidelines for all further decorating contests while I was there, and no one said another word when my team continued to ignore them. You may also like:our CEO challenged someone to eat dead bugsbringing pet spiders to work, manager is following people to the bathroom, and morehow do I get less emotionally invested in my work? { 191 comments }
do we have to accommodate a dieting employee? by Alison Green on September 9, 2024 A reader writes: I know that we need to accommodate employees with dietary restrictions due to health or religious needs, but what about employees who choose to go on diets? I have a colleague, Collette, who has been willingly doing a Keto diet for the last year, and she still is insufferable about it. Anytime people bring in treats or snacks that do not align with her diet, she makes comments about how we tempt her or how the smell of the food makes her sick or how she once again can’t enjoy the food we are all snacking on. We do team lunches every month and Collette always makes a scene over whether or not there is anything for her to eat at the restaurant that the group votes on. Sometimes the lunch is for a new coworker starting that month (we let them choose the spot), and once Collette refused to join the group for a welcome lunch because the place was Italian and mostly carbs (but…salad?). It’s not so much about her right to opt out of a group lunch as it is just all the snowballing comments. If I go on a diet, I don’t make other people feel bad about what they consume or inconvenience them because of my choice. Dieting is personal decision and I understand that going on one means will have to deal with repercussions in different areas of my life, including work. Am I coming at this the wrong way? Should we always accommodate any diets that colleagues are willingly on? If not, do we just need to put up with Collette’s constant comments? I answer this question over at Inc. today, where I’m revisiting letters that have been buried in the archives here from years ago (and sometimes updating/expanding my answers to them). You can read it here. You may also like:when are potlucks a bad idea?my team excludes me from lunches because of my dietary restrictionsmy team is requiring us to do a diet/exercise/"mental toughness" program { 362 comments }
my husband’s boss was fired after he told the truth about her in an exit interview by Alison Green on September 9, 2024 A reader writes: I’m writing on behalf of my husband, Bob, who recently left his job after two years. During his exit interview, he explained exactly why he was leaving. The reasons included his supervisor’s disorganized management style, expecting him to answer texts and phone calls at all hours, expecting him to log on to work immediately after a serious car accident, etc. To be clear, his position was not one that required him to be on call, and these were all violations of his union contract. Three weeks after Bob left the job, his former supervisor, Jane, called in tears to say she had been fired because of what he said in his exit interview. He feels terrible because even though he gave true reasons, he did not intend for Jane to be fired. Obviously he will not be able to use her for a reference, but was it acceptable for Jane’s supervisor to put everything on my husband? He is now worried about destroying Jane’s life and the chance of legal retaliation. I can see why Bob is upset about this, but he did not destroy Jane’s life. He didn’t even get her fired. Jane got Jane fired. It is also highly, highly likely that Bob wasn’t the only one to complain about Jane. It would be incredibly unusual for someone to be fired solely because one person made these sorts of complaints in an exit interview. If Bob were the only person raising concerns, it’s much more likely that someone would have simply talked to Jane, relayed the concerns, and coached her to behave differently. It’s far more likely that Bob’s complaints were a last-straw situation — that they’d had serious concerns about Jane for a while and this gave them the final push. Somewhat less likely — but still more likely than firing a manager after one employee complained — is that they took Bob’s feedback seriously enough to start asking other employees for feedback about Jane and in doing so discovered more problems. Either way, this wouldn’t be solely about Bob’s feedback. But even if it were based exclusively on what Bob said — which, again, is unlikely — this still wouldn’t be Bob’s fault. The concerns he raised were serious and important ones — in any situation, but particularly where Jane was violating a union contract. And given the issues with Jane, this wasn’t “she was trying really hard but couldn’t cut it, and Bob threw her under the bus on his way out the door.” This was a situation where a manager repeatedly violated boundaries and opened the company to legal liability (re: violations of the contract with the union). That’s Jane’s doing, not Bob’s. All that said … ideally Jane’s supervisor wouldn’t have left her with the impression that Bob’s feedback is what triggered her firing. Sometimes that’s unavoidable though, like if the information that couldn’t have come from anywhere else. But it’s also possible that they didn’t frame it that way; for all we know, Jane could have already been warned repeatedly about these problems but wasn’t hearing the message (like many people in that situation) and just knows Bob was connected to the latest concern so she blames him, even if there was a string of the problems already jeopardizing her job. It’s very unlikely that Jane could retaliate against Bob legally. Any cause of action she has for the firing would be against the company, not an individual employee. In theory she could try to claim something like defamation, but (a) she’d have to prove what he said was untrue and that he knew it was untrue and (b) it’s very unlikely a lawyer would take that case. You can never say never because some people do file nuisance lawsuits, but the chances of that are extremely low, and they’re even lower of it going anywhere. I hope Bob will keep in mind that his concerns were real ones, he was right to share them, and his candor was a service to other employees who were also being mismanaged by Jane. And for what it’s worth, it’s refreshing to see a company taking exit interview feedback seriously, since many don’t act on it at all. You may also like:my abusive boss was fired after I complained about her -- what do I say to coworkers?my boss got fired and won't leave me alonehow can I get out of doing an exit interview when I leave? { 188 comments }
is it weird to bring my toddler’s sippy cup to work, I don’t have time to answer a new hire’s questions, and more by Alison Green on September 9, 2024 It’s five answers to five questions. Here we go… 1. Is it weird to bring my toddler’s sippy cup to work with me? Is it weird to bring my toddler’s sippy cup into the office? I drop her off at daycare in the morning, and she brings her milk in the car. I don’t want it to get gross in the hot sun all day, so I bring her cup inside to rinse it out. When I get into the office, I drop my stuff off at my desk, then go rinse the cup in the kitchen and stick it back in my purse. Quick, no big deal. However, every time a coworker sees me with the cup, they (understandably) ask a confused “Why do you have a sippy cup?” On a few occasions, I’ve been stopped in the hall or pulled into a meeting on my way back to put the cup away, so then I’m left holding it while discussing an important work topic. And it’s hard to be taken seriously while holding a Tommee Tippee. This seems like such a non-issue, but now I’ve started to feel a bit weird about it. Like by bringing the cup into the office, my mom-life is bleeding over into my work-life and I’m announcing to everyone that I’m *A Mom* (even though all of my coworkers know that I’m a mom). I think my question is not whether or not it’s appropriate, but from a professional standpoint, is there any reason I should stop bringing the cup into the office, or should I do something differently? I’d love to say that you don’t need to give it another thought. In reality … you might. It depends on your office and, to some extent, your industry. If you work in an office or a field with a lot of sexism and/or you have to struggle to be taken seriously, the sippy cup might not be doing you any favors. It shouldn’t be that way — the fact that you care for a child should have nothing to do with how you’re seen at work — but in reality sometimes it does. If you wanted to play it absolutely safe, I’d be more discreet with the cup. Dump the milk out outside and then leave the cup in your car, or at least put it in your purse when you’re going to and from the kitchen. Is this silly? Yes. Are there still real biases against women of young children in some offices/fields? Yes. Are those potentially intensified when you are visibly performing a child-related task in your office during a work day? Also yes. On the other hand, if you don’t struggle to be taken seriously, change nothing. Especially if you’re senior-level and widely respected, it can be a social good to let your own behavior be a counterweight to problematic norms. 2. I don’t have time to answer a new employee’s questions I’m an employee on a team that, due to a series of unexpected departures, is currently very understaffed. Our office is in a constant state of panic with everyone rushing around to get projects done by deadline. Our manager, Diane, oversees several teams across multiple offices and is always in meetings, so she doesn’t have much time to help us and is very hard to reach. But she and other higher-ups have been desperate to get more people onto our team ASAP, and so a few months ago they hired a brand new graduate, Todd, with no experience in our field other than summer internships. (The rest of us have been on the job a decade-plus.) Diane initially assigned one of our team members, Vincent, to train Todd and answer his questions. However, Vincent ended up leaving a few weeks later due to an unexpected life event. Diane has not yet assigned someone else to train Todd, and now that we are scrambling to cover Vincent’s projects, the rest of us REALLY do not have the bandwidth to take on training duties. But I happen to sit across from Todd, so he is now directing all of his questions to me. And so now, in addition to the huge amount of my own work, I am dealing with a steady stream of questions from Todd. These are not procedural or factual questions that I can just ask him to look up — they tend to be specific to whatever project he is working on, such as “Do you know why the numbers in this column don’t add up?” or “Does this sentence I wrote make sense?” I often have to go over to his computer and examine his work in order to give a confident answer, and it starts to take up a decent amount of time. I tried to help as much as I could in the beginning, because I can tell that Todd is a hard worker who is trying hard to learn. I also don’t want him to be fired, because we do need the help! But the questions are not abating as time goes on, and I feel like they are starting to add an unsustainable amount of stress to my workload, particularly when we are in crunch time on deadlines. Is this something I should address with Diane — and if so, what would be the best way to do that? Or is it Todd I should be talking to? Talk to Diane. Estimate how much time you’re spending per week helping Todd and the impact it’s having on your workload, and tell Diane that you’re not able to be Todd’s main trainer unless other projects are taken off your plate to give you time for it. Since Diane is hard to reach, you could put this in an email. If her answer is that there’s no on else to help and you’ll have to make do, let her know that you can either help Todd or do XYZ in the coming weeks, and ask her which to prioritize. If she sticks to “just get it all done,” then say, “I’ll do what I can, but if we’re not moving any deadlines I’m going to need to prioritize those, which means I won’t have time to give Todd as much help as he’s asking for.” (In other words, treat this like you should any unrealistic workload problem.) Then explain the situation to Todd and suggest he speak with Diane himself about getting what he needs. Related: I’ve been overworked for months and my manager won’t help 3. Is wet hair unprofessional? I saw a discussion today about whether it’s unprofessional to have wet hair at work, with the consensus being that it is and reflects badly on employees. But some were arguing that this is racist and/or sexist because curly and long hair takes longer to dry and generally that hair will belong to women and/or people of color. (There was also a discussion about whether it’s reasonable to provide gym and showering facilities for use before work or over lunch but then expect people to dry their hair before coming back to work.) What are your thoughts? It depends on what your particular hair looks like when it’s wet. For example, I have long, straight hair that when wet requires three hours to stop looking like I just got out of the pool. But not every hair type does that (especially not curly hair). If you don’t look like a drowned rat when your hair is wet, it’s typically going to be fine. If it’s a borderline case, it’ll help to put it up or tie it back. I can’t see how it’s unreasonable to provide gym and shower facilities but still expect people to return to work looking professional. Yes, for some people that will mean blowing their hair dry or tying it back, but for many people it won’t. (And for many of the people who need to, the convenience of having those facilities on-site makes it worth it.) 4. My coworker doesn’t want our boss to know about his mistakes I am on a small team in a medium-sized, fast-growing company. There have been discussions around promoting me into a leadership role and reorganizing our team to have one or more junior colleagues report to me directly. This is great and I am excited for the opportunity if or when it happens. Currently my role is similar to quality review over the work that the others on the team produce. The issues I identify are not generally performance-related; they are typically mistakes made due to limitations in the process and/or tools. Notification to the individual and manager, when appropriate, is factual and not personal (example: “found issue X, recommend Y to resolve”). This will continue in the new team structure. My.question involves a concerning behavior of one person on the team who will likely report to me in the future. He gets defensive if our current manager is copied or notified for any negative issue. Most issues are dealt with individually, but some require guidance from our manager. When this happens, my colleague gets upset and says “(manager) doesn’t need to know.” This pushback makes me wary of trusting them on my team if the restructure happens as planned. And regardless of any restructure, I want to shut this behavior down. I have already tried explaining to him that these reports are not personal and do not reflect on his performance, but I don’t think the message is being received. The next time he says that your manager doesn’t need to know about something, reply with, “Jane expects me to loop her in on this type of thing because of X.” If it’s true you could add, “If you’re worried about it reflecting on you, I can tell you this isn’t a big deal — everyone on the team has corrections like this, it’s routine and expected, and you don’t have more than anyone else.” (Again, only say that if that’s true.) If you do become his manager, it’ll be useful to know that he approaches mistakes this way. It means you may have to do more digging about what’s really going on in his area, won’t necessarily be able to take his word for things, and can’t assume he’ll alert you if something goes wrong. That’s super useful to start off knowing, rather than finding it out down the road. It could also be something you address with him once you’re his boss, possibly framed as, “I know you worried in the past about Jane hearing about X or Y. I want to talk to you about how I approach mistakes and how I’d like you to think of them and communicate about them.” 5. People are annoyed with my backlog, but I have a medical accommodation I’ve been working at a fully remote job for six months. I’m an individual contributor who gets assigned X number of a certain type of project every month. While clients do need these delivered promptly, this isn’t a vital business function, nor does it save lives. About three months ago, a chronic pain condition I have started getting worse. About three weeks ago, when it became clear that I was really behind with no improvement in sight, I told my boss Tony. I was surprised at how quickly and easily my company agreed to an ADA accommodation of a reduced workload for several months while I adjust treatments with my doctor. It really made me feel positively about my company. Well, we’re now into the first month of my reduced workload, but I’m still digging out from last month. I’ve been upfront with Tony about how far I’m behind and gave him a realistic timeline for getting it done. He didn’t ask any follow-up questions. My grandboss Laila told me to get my work done as soon as I could, but also seemed understanding that I’m working at a much reduced pace. When I send a project out to the client, another department at my company is notified. There have been a few annoyed emails from this department, including one with many manager cced. They have every right to be testy — these clients paid for services and they should get them on time. But there’s only so much I can do right now. I’m getting a bit frustrated that Tony or Laila didn’t say anything to this department. I understand they can’t talk about my accommodation, but I would have thought they’d let them know that things will be coming out late and they’re aware of the situation. Am I being too extra if I ask Tony to say something? I really don’t want my reputation tanked with this department and I don’t want to wreck client relationships. No, ask Tony to say something! Ideally he’d explain to the other department that there are extenuating circumstances slowing things down and X type of work will be delayed for roughly Y months. What to say to clients is trickier and depends on details I don’t have, but Tony should be working with you on messaging about that too. Since that’s not happening, explain to Tony that you’ve noticed people seem annoyed and you think it would help to offer context, and ask him to help you let people know what’s going on so it’s clear to them that he’s in the loop and you’re not just dropping the ball. 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weekend open thread – September 7-8, 2024 by Alison Green on September 6, 2024 This comment section is open for any non-work-related discussion you’d like to have with other readers, by popular demand. Here are the rules for the weekend posts. Book recommendation of the week: Really Good, Actually, by Monica Heisey. Reeling from the break-up of her marriage, a 20something woman tries to figure out dating after divorce, her ex, and how much you can really ask of a group chat. The main character isn’t very likable, but the writing is extremely funny. * I make a commission if you use that Amazon link. You may also like:the cats of AAMall of my 2022 and 2023 book recommendationsall of my book recommendations from 2015-2021 { 875 comments }
open thread – September 6, 2024 by Alison Green on September 6, 2024 It’s the Friday open thread! The comment section on this post is open for discussion with other readers on any work-related questions that you want to talk about (that includes school). If you want an answer from me, emailing me is still your best bet*, but this is a chance to take your questions to other readers. * If you submitted a question to me recently, please do not repost it here, as it may be in my queue to answer. You may also like:our motivational speaker got drunk and went off the railsI think my employee is being maliciously compliantneed help finding a job? start here { 1,002 comments }
a dog-sitting job gone bad, delayed approval for time off, and more by Alison Green on September 6, 2024 It’s four answers to four questions. Here we go… 1. My neighbor, her nephew, my kid, and her dogs My question has to do with kid work. I recently found myself in an uncomfortable situation with my middle-schooler, Falcon, and I’m wondering if I handled it badly. My neighbor, Jane, asked Falcon to check on her dogs and take them for a walk while she attended an event. She offered $15/hour, and since Falcon loves dogs, he agreed. The request was for him to spend two to three hours walking and playing with the dogs, starting between 5 and 6 pm. On the afternoon of the event, Jane texted, asking if Falcon could instead stay at her house until she returned around 11 pm. She also mentioned that her adult nephew, Hank, would be at the house with Falcon. This change was … unexpected. We only saw the text after returning home from Falcon’s soccer game, by which time Jane had already left for the event. Neither of us had ever met Hank before, and all we knew about him was that he had learning disabilities. Falcon was uncomfortable with the idea of spending several hours in a house with an adult stranger. But, since Jane had already left, we felt obligated to fulfill her request. I accompanied Falcon to the house at 6 pm. We walked the dogs, played with them in the yard, and greeted Hank, who was sitting in the dark and ignored us. Falcon was afraid of him. We played outside with the dogs for a couple of hours until it became too dark and mosquito-y to reasonably remain outdoors. We then brought the dogs inside and waited together in the front room with them until Jane returned, as neither of us was comfortable leaving Falcon alone with Hank. When Jane got home, she noticed dog poop in the kitchen, which we hadn’t seen because Falcon was too scared to go in there (it was attached to the room where Hank was hanging out in the dark). It appeared that Hank and/or the dogs had stepped in the poop and gotten it all over the place. Our best guess is that the pooping happened before we arrived, as we were with the dogs fairly consistently from 6 pm until Jane’s return. Jane handed Falcon $75 as payment, but I texted her the next morning, offering to return the money since we hadn’t prevented the dogs from soiling the house. Jane asked us to return $50, which we did. I feel terrible about the whole situation. I don’t think Jane should have put my son in the position of being alone for hours with a man he didn’t know. Falcon feels guilty for not doing a better job with the dogs. I’m wondering how could I have handled this better. Beyond letting the dogs out earlier, of course. I feel like I’ve both traumatized my child and let down my neighbor. This is 100% on Jane. Falcon agreed to a specific job: playing with the dogs for a couple of hours, on his own, ending no later than 9 pm. Jane unilaterally changed that to “stay at my house for six hours with an adult man you don’t know.” Even if Hank had been friendlier/less intimidating, this wasn’t an okay thing to ask of a middle-schooler, particularly without checking to see if he’d be comfortable with it and possibly talking with you as well. (Frankly, even if Falcon were comfortable, I don’t think it would have been an appropriate ask. If Hank isn’t capable of taking care of the dog himself, and is someone who might smear dog poop all over the house without cleaning it up, an unprepared middle-schooler isn’t the right person to be alone with him.) If we could go back in time, ideally you would have coached Falcon to tell Jane that he couldn’t stay later than the time he agreed to (or even told her that yourself). You say you felt obligated to fulfill Jane’s request, but you weren’t obligated; the request wasn’t the one Falcon had agreed to. I don’t think you needed to offer to return the money although I can understand the impulse, given the poop situation. But Jane should have refused that offer and should have apologized for how things unfolded. 2. I submitted a time off request 3 months ago … and am still waiting I work at a small company, about 50 employees. Last year, the owner turned over day-to-day operations to a VP who has been with the company for the past 10 years. I report to the VP and am one of four people with the company in a managerial position. Over three months ago, I submitted a leave request for the week of Christmas. I have been in this industry for over 20 years and that week is historically the slowest week of the year. I usually do not take off that week so that my staff is able to travel to see family (my family is small and local). Last year, my brother-in-law died on Christmas and my husband does not want to be home due to the bad memories from last year. Because it is Christmas, I submitted my request early to make sure it was timely and before any other requests were submitted. The VP has not made a decision on my leave request and advised me he is still “thinking about it.” I’m very frustrated. I feel disrespected and unappreciated. I only earn two weeks of leave per year, which isn’t much and often causes issues as my husband has considerably more leave and we are unable to travel due to my lack of leave. It is also use or lose, so if I do not use my time by the end of the year, I will lose it. I feel like my vacation time is being held hostage. Never mind that I have to pay for the AirBNB and flight and my husband has to request leave as well for that week. Everything is in limbo over this and the costs are rising each day. The difference in the cost of the flights between early June and September is nearly $1000. I’m so angry and disappointed. I’m willing to quit over this. My issue is that I don’t think the owner is aware of the issues with the VP, and I’m not sure how to bring it up as he has stated multiple times that he has complete faith in the VP and trusts him 100%. I do not think it is appropriate to withhold PTO approval (or denial) for over three months, all while the cost of my vacation plans are now increasing and I will not be able to use the leave before the end of the year if this vacation request is not approved. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated in how to address with both the owner and VP. Talk to the VP first! Say what you’ve said here — the costs are rising with each day that you wait, the time off is use-or-or-lose it, and you need to be able to plan. Ask what he needs to give you a definite answer by next week. If he doesn’t do that (or if he denies the request), talk to the owner. “Having complete faith in” the VP and “trusting him 100%” doesn’t generally mean “I believe he will never miss anything / could never benefit from help changing his perspective.” And you’re a high-level employee who’s been there for a decade; the owner probably would want to know that you’re on the verge of quitting over something so easily solvable. All that said … two weeks of vacation time is very stingy for a management level position, and even more so after 10 years. I’d also find it grating to be in a high-level management role but still be required to get approval for a meager amount of time off during a slow period. No one should need to wait this long to have PTO approved, but typically PTO approval for managers at your level is much closer to a rubber-stamp; making you wait months for no discernible reason is ridiculous. Is this the only thing where your company is stingy and overly rigid? I’d be inclined to reassess how well this place treats you (in money, in benefits, and in respect) and compare it to other options that might be out there. 3. What do I do when my company firewall blocks a website? On occasion I will open a safe-for-work link but it will be blocked for various reasons. Sometimes it’s because it’s a “advocacy website” (which, my job is in advocacy, so I don’t totally get) but sometimes it’s for pornography. This is absolutely mortifying! (And I must stress, there’s no reason to believe these links are actually NSFW!) What should I do when this happens? I usually do nothing, but I am very embarrassed at the idea of our IT team getting an alert that I tried to access porn at work. Do I need to email them about it and clear the air? Nah. They’re probably well aware that the software misfires, and you’re undoubtedly not the only person it’s happening to. However, it would be fine to message them, “FYI, OatmealAlliance.com is being blocked as ‘pornography,’ which it obviously isn’t.” That way you’re informing them about a problem (their blocking tool needs refinement) and if it happens to bring you peace of mind in the process, so much the better. If these are sites you need to do your job, you should add, “Can you please unblock it? I need it for a project I’m working on” (or similar). 4. Greeting people you’re not sure you’ve met before or not Low stakes question, but do you have a favorite way to acknowledge people who you’re introduced to and aren’t sure if you’ve met before? Or you know you have, but they don’t remember and you don’t want to put them on the spot? I’m usually in the latter category, but may be moving into the former. The default seems to be “nice to see you,” to cover all bases, but honestly I hate it. Curious if you have anything better? “Nice to see you” is a classic among politicians and others who do lots of glad-handing for a reason: it covers you in case you’re forgetting that you’ve met the person previously. You could go with “hello, how are you?” but there aren’t many other options for this specific context. You may also like:my boss won't approve my time off for a video game competitionwhat happens if I get hired at a dog-friendly company when I'm allergic to dogs?my company says we're dog-friendly -- but we're not { 715 comments }
does posting sob stories on LinkedIn hurt your job search? by Alison Green on September 5, 2024 A reader writes: I work in a field that has been heavily affected by layoffs in the past year. I have been lucky and managed to maintain work, but many talented people I know have not been so lucky. My question is about whether posting depressing, sad posts on social media, especially LinkedIn, affects your hiring potential. I have seen many of my former coworkers posting status updates that include how they been out of work for many months, they are burning through their savings, they applied to hundreds of positions only to be rejected by AI recruitment tools or ghosted by human hiring teams, and, in some cases, that they are are about to be homeless. While I will not argue that the current job market is incredibly difficult, I worry that they are hurting themselves with potential employers who might unfairly see them as “difficult.” I would like to know your take on this and what you would recommend on posting status updates like this on LinkedIn. Yes, they are likely to be hurting their chances with prospective employers. Employers tend to want to feel they’re hiring someone who’s in-demand — or at least someone who 100 other companies haven’t looked at and said, “We’ll pass.” To be clear, this is not aligned with the realities of job-seeking and hiring. It’s not uncommon for talented people to struggle to find jobs, especially in a tight market, and being unemployed or having a long job search isn’t a sign that someone shouldn’t be hired. But it’s not helpful to raise those questions in a hiring manager’s mind. Moreover, hiring managers — being humans — tend to respond better to optimism than to cynicism, pessimism, or bitterness. That doesn’t mean that cynicism, pessimism, or bitterness are never warranted — but when you want people to hire you, making that your branding on a professional networking site is a bad move. You may also like:my brother-in-law shares TMI on LinkedInI feel guilty about getting a job in my competitive field when others are still strugglinghow should I navigate social media connections during a job search? { 174 comments }